The Partick Thistle thread

[Hammer Jag]

I absolutely fucking hate us.

[Pie Of The Month]

Hating this team requires too much effort. I just can't be arsed with us right now.

[BdenJag]

Nearly 24 hours on can someone please explain why Barton wasn’t playing in the back 3? A total nonsense.

[Sting777]

42 minutes ago, BdenJag said:

Nearly 24 hours on can someone please explain why Barton wasn’t playing in the back 3? A total nonsense.

Was told at the game last week that Barton is unhappy and wants a move back down south and Archie ain't best pleased. Whether it's true or not, who knows, but it's inexplicable to me anyway, that if Archie is playing three central defenders that Barton isn't one of them. I think Keown has been poor this season, but his best games this season (and there hasn't been very many!)  have been when Barton is playing beside him.

Edited February 25, 2018 by Sting777

[PauloPerth]

9 hours ago, Fuctifano said:

The saddest thing about this 5 years in the top division which is screeching to a halt is that this is the best shot we've had to do anything, something, in the last 35 years, but we have done absolutely f**k all of note. There's been at various stages at least one and normally more of Rangers, Hearts, Hibs, and Dundee United not in the top league. What have we had?  Yes, top 6 finish, good, but not something I'm going to be telling the grandkids about.

Any great results? Nah.

Cup runs? Nah.

Mind that time we left Lyle Taylor and Doolan on the bench vs an Inverness team we were 7-1 up on aggregate against that season?  and Miles fucking Storey ripped us to bits? Mind that time we played 3-6-1 vs a Dundee United team that couldn't kick their own arse and who were on their way to relegation and lost 1-0? Mind the defeats to Championship sides in the League Cup?

Well what about the league? I'll give you the 4-2 vs (an emasculated) Hearts which probably is the best result we've had as we dug it out when it mattered. What about wins vs the bigger teams? Well we got one draw against Celtic when we probably should have won, and let's not even start on our constant bottle jobs against the other arse cheek? 1-0 up and losing 2-1 twice in one season- it's like the team want to hurt us. We even make Aberdeen look like AC Milan circa 1990.

Your manager was nominated for manager of the season for finishing mid-table...

[happyaccie]

43 minutes ago, BdenJag said:

Nearly 24 hours on can someone please explain why Barton wasn’t playing in the back 3? A total nonsense.

Maybe because Archie didn't select him, it's only an opinion but think it may carry some weight.

[thistledo]

It’s looking pretty grim now, but like a lot of us I just can’t be arsed at the moment. Was planning Hamilton away but sacked it for the rugby. Already thinking I can’t even be fucked renewing my ST for this mob.

 

Why can we never get things in the team right. Last season really solid defence and midfield, but absolutely awful up front except Doolan. Now Sammon is coming onto a good game and once again the defence is not looking great. It’s unreal man.

 

[jagfox]

9 hours ago, Fuctifano said:

The saddest thing about this 5 years in the top division which is screeching to a halt is that this is the best shot we've had to do anything, something, in the last 35 years, but we have done absolutely f**k all of note. There's been at various stages at least one and normally more of Rangers, Hearts, Hibs, and Dundee United not in the top league. What have we had?  Yes, top 6 finish, good, but not something I'm going to be telling the grandkids about.

Any great results? Nah.

Cup runs? Nah.

Mind that time we left Lyle Taylor and Doolan on the bench vs an Inverness team we were 7-1 up on aggregate against that season?  and Miles fucking Storey ripped us to bits? Mind that time we played 3-6-1 vs a Dundee United team that couldn't kick their own arse and who were on their way to relegation and lost 1-0? Mind the defeats to Championship sides in the League Cup?

Well what about the league? I'll give you the 4-2 vs (an emasculated) Hearts which probably is the best result we've had as we dug it out when it mattered. What about wins vs the bigger teams? Well we got one draw against Celtic when we probably should have won, and let's not even start on our constant bottle jobs against the other arse cheek? 1-0 up and losing 2-1 twice in one season- it's like the team want to hurt us. We even make Aberdeen look like AC Milan circa 1990.

Hard to argue with any of this. Reaching a couple of quarter finals and a top six (finishing below 7th on points) is hardly something to fill up the club’s achievements list.

Last season our head to heads with the bottom six helped us rise above the bottom pack. This season they’ve killed us. Even two draws would have had me quite confident of reaching 10th spot but the two last minute defeats have us staring at the playoffs at best, imo.

The Manager still doesn’t seem to have a favoured first eleven with constant chopping and changing so far this year. To be fair to him he’s not had that luxury of choice in the past but he needs to settle selection down if we aren’t to slide tamely out of the league.

I don’t buy the fitness thing either, possibly a factor but we are being out fought and out thought by opposition teams, not out ran. There certainly seems to be a mental issue too when it comes to seeing out games. This must be smashing the players’ confidence as a result. The perfect shitstorm at this stage of the season.

Can Archie sort this out? I genuinely hope so but I’ll not be holding my breath...

[Fuctifano]

9 minutes ago, thistledo said:

It’s looking pretty grim now, but like a lot of us I just can’t be arsed at the moment. Was planning Hamilton away but sacked it for the rugby. Already thinking I can’t even be fucked renewing my ST for this mob.

 

Why can we never get things in the team right. Last season really solid defence and midfield, but absolutely awful up front except Doolan. Now Sammon is coming onto a good game and once again the defence is not looking great. It’s unreal man.

 

Fucking hell, I know we're probably about to get relegated and spend 10 years trying to get back up, but it's not *that* bad.

 

[Snakebite]

The worst thing about yesterday for me is how crippled Hamilton were by the end. Three enforced subs, the likes of Skondras, Crawford, MacKinnon out completely, yet they still won. Just imagine how good they'll be when the injuries clear up.

 

[Thistle_do_nicely]

11 minutes ago, Snakebite said:

The worst thing about yesterday for me is how crippled Hamilton were by the end. Three enforced subs, the likes of Skondras, Crawford, MacKinnon out completely, yet they still won. Just imagine how good they'll be when the injuries clear up.

 

They lost Michael Devlin and Greg Docherty in January too. 

[thistledo]

Fucking hell, I know we're probably about to get relegated and spend 10 years trying to get back up, but it's not *that* bad.
 

I never thought I’d miss the days we played good football and lost last minute goals. But at the moment the football is pretty fucking poor and we still lose last minute goals.

I’m pretty sure every team in our league are well aware that we fall apart at the end of a game, so if they can keep it to tight up to 70mins then they will get something out of it.

[Rednyella]

Archie in his post match interview got relatively irritated when Max mentioned losing late goals this past few years. He basically said it didn’t matter ‘a toss’.

Sorry Archie it does matter.
Because if you’d have addressed it we wouldn’t be in this position. Year after year we lose goals 80-90mins. That’s your responsibility to fix.

I think nothing less than 3 points in Dingwall next week or I think the fans will completely turn.

Posts above about Hamilton’s injuries and sold players makes this actually quite an embarrassing loss.

[Nightmare]

2 hours ago, BdenJag said:

Nearly 24 hours on can someone please explain why Barton wasn’t playing in the back 3? A total nonsense.

Especially when you consider the fucking calamity that is Danny Devine was playing instead of him, it’s even more frustrating. 

[Armand 2]

Whilst it was a very sore one to take, I'm not on the verge of throwing myself off the Campsies like some folk.

I don't think we're in a terminal position at the moment; however we'd be as close to damn it if we removed the manager at this stage of the season. 

It's indisputable that Archie has been complacent in his squad management and has overestimated the impact that certain players would have - but let's wait until the end of the season before penning his obituary. We've given ourselves a lot more work than we should but it's not insurmountable.

In the post spilt fixtures, we'll be due to have County and Accies at home; if we can't defeat them at Firhill in what will be absolutely crucial games then we'll get what we deserve.

[Ad Lib]

Ask yourself this: when did we last pull of an actual, legitimate, bona fide “upset”?

The only game in the last decade that can lay claim to that was a 3-1 victory over Aberdeen in our first season back up. Before that, we’re talking what? Inverness on penalties TWELVE years ago?

We’ve had some terrific results “in context” (Hearts 4-2 being the stand-out example) and sometimes played some excellent football (promotion season most notably) and even occasionally steamrollered teams of mediocre callibre (Hamilton and ICT).

But when the closest thing to a vintage performance is an Ade Azeez equaliser at Celtic Park or a 60 second Ibrox lead thanks to Damon Gray, you do sometimes think “f**k me this makes St Johnstone look an exciting team to follow”.

[oneteaminglasgow]

Archie has, in my opinion, earned the right to try and get us out of the mess he’s gotten us into. We’ve managed before, and as terrible as we are, there’s several dreadful teams in the division. There’s a good chance we’ll be relegated, but if we can get our act together, starting on Saturday then we may just be able to get out of this.

Serious questions need to be asked though, and a serious overhaul of the squad is required. Osman seems to have chucked it and is becoming a liability. Spittal, for as much as he can be great if we’re dominating teams, is an absolute passenger and can’t be relied upon when we need to fight for points, which is most of the time. Devine is the worst defender we’ve had since promotion (other than Piccolo, obviously) and needs to be moved on at the end of the season. Keown can, as we know, be a good defender but he’s not been the same this season. Barton likewise, although everyone can see that he shouldn’t be playing in midfield.

Archie has had a nightmare this year. Relying on Bannigan to be the player he was before injury and to remain injury free was exceptionally naive. Playing half the season with 2 guys who can’t really play centre mid in there was inexcusable. Woods has done alright since he came in, but has obvious fitness issues.

We’re still a complete soft touch. What I wouldn’t give for someone like Darian McKinnon or Keith Lasley, just a horrible cynical fucker but who’d undoubtedly improve our team.

If we stay up, we need to have a serious look at ourselves for next season. Or we’ll be in the same mess next year.

[third lanark]

14 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

Archie has, in my opinion, earned the right to try and get us out of the mess he’s gotten us into. We’ve managed before, and as terrible as we are, there’s several dreadful teams in the division. There’s a good chance we’ll be relegated, but if we can get our act together, starting on Saturday then we may just be able to get out of this.

Serious questions need to be asked though, and a serious overhaul of the squad is required. Osman seems to have chucked it and is becoming a liability. Spittal, for as much as he can be great if we’re dominating teams, is an absolute passenger and can’t be relied upon when we need to fight for points, which is most of the time. Devine is the worst defender we’ve had since promotion (other than Piccolo, obviously) and needs to be moved on at the end of the season. Keown can, as we know, be a good defender but he’s not been the same this season. Barton likewise, although everyone can see that he shouldn’t be playing in midfield.

Archie has had a nightmare this year. Relying on Bannigan to be the player he was before injury and to remain injury free was exceptionally naive. Playing half the season with 2 guys who can’t really play centre mid in there was inexcusable. Woods has done alright since he came in, but has obvious fitness issues.

We’re still a complete soft touch. What I wouldn’t give for someone like Darian McKinnon or Keith Lasley, just a horrible cynical fucker but who’d undoubtedly improve our team.

If we stay up, we need to have a serious look at ourselves for next season. Or we’ll be in the same mess next year.

I would add in sadly that Erskine has largely this season been a shadow of the player we know he can be (albeit he was okay yesterday) and Edwards is very inconsistent - great in some games but a headless chicken in others (which I hoped would have been sorted this season), also while I cant fault Storeys energy and fitness I did hope he would have contributed with a few more goals this season.

Has there been any word about Bannigan actually coming back this season, as it seems to have went very quiet?

[oneteaminglasgow]

I would add in sadly that Erskine has largely this season been a shadow of the player we know he can be (albeit he was okay yesterday) and Edwards is very inconsistent - great in some games but a headless chicken in others (which I hoped would have been sorted this season), also while I cant fault Storeys energy and fitness I did hope he would have contributed with a few more goals this season.
Has there been any word about Bannigan actually coming back this season, as it seems to have went very quiet?

Edwards is like watching a school child play football. Loads of energy, but absolutely no positional sense or idea of what he’s supposed to be doing.

Storey should be playing on the wing as far as I’m concerned, his main attributes are pace and occasionally being able to put in a decent cross. And, unlike the most of our team, he doesn’t immediately shite himself whenever an opponent goes near him.

[Sting777]

17 minutes ago, third lanark said:

I would add in sadly that Erskine has largely this season been a shadow of the player we know he can be (albeit he was okay yesterday) and Edwards is very inconsistent - great in some games but a headless chicken in others (which I hoped would have been sorted this season), also while I cant fault Storeys energy and fitness I did hope he would have contributed with a few more goals this season.

Has there been any word about Bannigan actually coming back this season, as it seems to have went very quiet?

Pretty sure Archie said at Christmas that he was going to London to see another specialist as he was still getting pain from his leg, but he had been told they can't find anything wrong. Love Banzo but sadly it's time to cut both him and Fraser loose. Between them the have have hardly kicked a ball  in around 5 seasons worth of football. (2 seasons for Banzo and 3 for Fraser) Hope I am wrong but I fear Banzo will never recapture his form of  previous seasons when he was fully fit.

Edited February 25, 2018 by Sting777