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The Kris Doolan situation has stimulated me to become an active member rather than just an occasional visitor to this thread. 

1.  I think that like it or not we have to respect that managers will and at times must make unpopular decisions. 

2. The issue is how such decisions are implemented. In this case my view is badly. 

3. As a long standing Jag, 50 odd years and although I will always be a jag, I do not like the 'different direction' we are apparently taking if it means we are treating our club legends the way Kris Doolan has been treated. 

4. I am in no doubt both on and off the field Kris still had much to offer.  With the right support he will score goals, lots of goals. 

5. We can be a good/nice club and still be successful

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Fuctifano said:

Huge rod for his own back made by Caldwell I think, he's pissed off a fairly substantial chunk of the support - certainly a bold decision if nothing else especially when it seems Doolan himself would have been happy to stay as a squad player.  Are we really going to sign 4 strikers better than him? He was still our second best striker last season despite being poor.

Caldwell better hope he has another Scott McDonald-esque rabbit in a hat somewhere. I would take Kris Boyd but think he'll get a Premiership gig at a St Mirren or Hamilton if one or both stay up. I would most definitely not take Kenny Miller.

Very much agree with this, if Caldwell doesn't sign someone capable of banging in more goals than Doolan last season and Doolan heads of to Ayr and is 10+ goals next season, then I'd say he's fucked it massively. 

Really quite sad to see Doolan go, would have liked to have seen an offer of some sort to be a squad player. Lets face it, we've had our fair share of injuries over the last few years... Except Doolan for the most part in his career I can barely remember him being out for any great length of time. Being able to rely on someone like Doolan as a backup would have been great, I don't think there is many current Championship sides that would turn him down for that role. But Caldwell did. 

I see we're rolling the mid 30's previously used to score loads for a premiership club dice again though. Hope it works again. Looking back at Boyd's record, he hasn't had many impressive seasons in the last five or so season. 

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Looking back at Boyd's record, he hasn't had many impressive seasons in the last five or so season. 


He was top scorer in the Premiership last season if I recall correctly?

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3 minutes ago, jaggyness said:

He was top scorer in the Premiership last season if I recall correctly?

 

Ach I knew someone was going to pick up on that. Ok, one good season in five. The rest he has been pretty average. 

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11 minutes ago, thistledo said:

Very much agree with this, if Caldwell doesn't sign someone capable of banging in more goals than Doolan last season and Doolan heads of to Ayr and is 10+ goals next season, then I'd say he's fucked it massively. 

It's pretty much the same as the Erskine situation.  I don't think he was playing too well when he let him go, and I said that I didn't agree with it, but if he brought someone in that could effectively replace him, fine.  He brought in Cardle, who started really well, got injured, and then seemed to be used very sparingly.  I think that was a decent enough replacement.

We would've needed to find a pretty effective striker had Doolan stayed, but now it's absolutely vital.  If he does that, then it's the right decision.  Otherwise...

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12 hours ago, Uncle Psychosis said:

We ended up in the shit this season because we stuck with Archie for too long for entirely sentimental reasons. 

On that basis, I'm not overly disappointed to lose Doolan the player. 

However, not giving Doolan the club legend a proper send off seems entirely wrong. 

The way it has been handled has been very poor, to say the least. It appears he had no inkling that this was about to happen, however we will get the chance to give him a fantastic send off when his testimonial match takes place and lets hope Firhill is packed to the rafters for that!!

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1 hour ago, Exiledjag said:

3. As a long standing Jag, 50 odd years and although I will always be a jag, I do not like the 'different direction' we are apparently taking if it means we are treating our club legends the way Kris Doolan has been treated. 

You'll like it if it means winning more games of football. 

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If all I cared about was watching a team win every single Saturday I'd just sit and watch Manchester City on the telly.

What I want is to support a team that treats its players - especially great servants who love the club and are loved by the fans - something a little better than shite by a manager who won't drop his knickers the second a "bigger" club comes calling.

And Kris Boyd is who we're going to being in? Get to f**k, Caldwell, Low & Britton. But Caldwell first.

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You'll like it if it means winning more games of football. 

I think it’s possible to be angry at the way it appears to have been handled, despite not necessarily disagreeing with the decision itself.

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Oh aye, definitely. But if we're pushing for promotion next season then I suspect it'll be forgotten about quickly. That's Caldwell's gamble - he'll live or die by it.

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26 minutes ago, Dollar Jag said:

If all I cared about was watching a team win every single Saturday I'd just sit and watch Manchester City on the telly.

What I want is to support a team that treats its players - especially great servants who love the club and are loved by the fans - something a little better than shite by a manager who won't drop his knickers the second a "bigger" club comes calling.

I know it's still raw, but you'll get over it, mate. Like we've gotten over Law's lack of testimonial, Bone's refusal to play Kenny Arthur and Lambie f*cking off not once but twice, to name a few instances where our feelings have been hurt by the manager/board.

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1 hour ago, Nizzy said:

Oh aye, definitely. But if we're pushing for promotion next season then I suspect it'll be forgotten about quickly. That's Caldwell's gamble - he'll live or die by it.

This.  If he brings in a good striker - which, let's face it, we haven't done in a long, long time - then the decision will look a lot better.  If he doesn't, it's been a bit of a f**k-up.

Wild-card in it is how Doolan does at the next place.  If he goes to a fellow Championship club and bangs in 30 goals, then questions will be asked.

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I can't imagine that many Championship teams would say no thanks to a guy like Doolan on the bench and the training ground.  I don't buy the 'new direction' or even 'free up a wage' crap for a minute.

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Caldwell says we’d be interested in Miller and Boyd. The deal for Elliott would make him our highest paid player. I’d ljke Elliott to stay but we shouldn’t be chucking money at him.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17632265.gary-caldwell-no-brainer-for-partick-thistle-to-sign-kris-boyd-or-kenny-miller/?ref=twtrec

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I found the Elliott thing bizarre to mention tbh, especially when he's not a standout player. 

If I was being churlish I'd also point out that Boyd scored 3 league goals in his only season at this level. 

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I found the Elliott thing bizarre to mention tbh, especially when he's not a standout player. 


I don’t believe it tbh. Not a chance we’re offering him more than Spittal or what Bannigan will be on.

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The Elliott thing is nothing short of bizarre.

The Fitzpatrick thing is clearly bollocks, hyperbole, or stripped of its fucking massive asterisks.

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As others have said, his best days may be behind him but surely he was worth keeping as a squad player?

Given our lowly position, i'd be pretty amazed if we managed to bring in 2 or 3 better strikers this summer. 

Regardless, the lack of class shown to him by the club is a disgrace. 

I hope Caldwell goes on to prove himself right and he brings in a few quality players that get us at the right end of the table. But until then, he has just made yet another rod for his own back with the way this has been handled. He already comes across as a w****r, things like certainly dont help that perception.

Boyd can f**k off though. We've already got our full quota of unfit lazy b*****ds who cant/wont run assuming Harkins stays. Both him and Miller are just old firm fanboys. Dont want either of them at Firhill.

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I'm intrigued to read what's said in the "in-depth interview" which includes his reasoning on letting Doolan leave that is due to go on the site at 10.30 tonight.

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12 minutes ago, GrahamJags said:

I'm intrigued to read what's said in the "in-depth interview" which includes his reasoning on letting Doolan leave that is due to go on the site at 10.30 tonight.

The Partick Thistle website?

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