jagfox Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Nisbet scores to put Dunfermline 1-0 up at Somerset Park... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhouse Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Clyde would have been better off putting out a Shawfield Greyhounds Select amirite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 55 minutes ago, Scott-Replay said: I wouldn’t be surprised if this still catches some bites, to be fair. We had to offer amateur contracts to the majority of that team to even play tonight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Wee bully fans scarce on the ground tonight...lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Karpaty Lviv said: We had to offer amateur contracts to the majority of that team to even play tonight Could be the way forward for the wee. You can be the next queue pee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 We had to offer amateur contracts to the majority of that team to even play tonight Still silence from you on the Goodwillie ‘issue’ bud? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfielder Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 There's no way we're getting promoted this year, so looking forward to playing Thistle in the league next season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tarmo Kink said: Still silence from you on the Goodwillie ‘issue’ bud? I’ve been transparent on that ‘issue’ since day one. As relevant that is to Thistle vs Clyde reserves 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, shawfielder said: There's no way we're getting promoted this year, so looking forward to playing Thistle in the league next season Yes we're shite enough to get put down 2 divisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, thisal said: Yes we're shite enough to get put down 2 divisions. Oops 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Arnold Layne said: Oops What? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, thisal said: What? Up side your head.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cilitbang Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/club-qa/ Friday 6th December, 2019 at 12:00pm Following Three Back Cats’ acquisition of a majority shareholding of Partick Thistle – and land at Firhill – two weeks ago, the club is pleased to provide supporters with this detailed Q&A update which includes the next steps in the transition to fan ownership by 30 March, 2020. What has been happening since the announcement was made? A great deal, on a number of fronts. Work on transferring back to the Club continues. The interim Board has met the manager to talk about supporting him in the transfer window. The details of the Working Group are being worked on and are the key focus – that’s got to be right to ensure the transfer of shares goes ahead at the end of March 2020. Who owns Partick Thistle Football Club now? Three Black Cats Ltd (3BC) bought the 55% of shares in Thistle that were held by a majority shareholding group. It also bought the assets of Firhill Developments, which are the south terrace (the bing) and the main stand. Colin Weir personally owns a further 10% of shares, the PTFC Trust owns 19.46%, the Jags Trust owns 7% and small shareholders own the remaining 8+%. Who or what is Three Black Cats Ltd (3BC)? It’s the development company owned by Jags fan and Club Patron Colin Weir. It purchased the 55% majority shareholding in Partick Thistle and the land owned by Firhill Developments Ltd. How’s the Club operating between now and March? The interim Board is running the Club on a day to day basis, so it is very much business as usual. In parallel, the Working Group has been set up to start working with fans to identify the right model for fan ownership. These are two distinct groups – the interim Board will have to approve the transfer of shares to fans, so it won’t participate in the Working Group. Who’s on the interim Board and who appointed them? Individuals with a range of business backgrounds, the majority being longstanding Jags fans. They were appointed by the majority shareholder 3BC. The names and profiles of the interim Board can be viewed here: https://ptfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/board/ Why is there no Chairman on the interim Board? It was felt by 3BC that, after the upheaval of recent months, the next Chairman of the Club should not be interim but a permanent Chairman appointed come March. There’s enough experience on the interim Board to organise chairing of meetings on rotation amongst the interim Directors. What’s Jacqui Low’s role? Jacqui Low is one of two Directors of 3BC, the company that owns a majority shareholding in PTFC, along with Colin Weir. Jacqui is Colin’s nominated representative to liaise with the Club, to protect 3BC’s interests in Thistle until March 2020 and to ensure that the shares are handed over to fans within the stated timescale. She is not on the interim Board. What’s the Working Group? 3BC invited the single biggest shareholder, the PTFC Trust, and campaign group Thistle for Ever (TfE) to begin the process of setting up a Working Group to identify the best model for fan ownership at Thistle. However, the Working Group will operate independently of any one fan group and aims to provide a forum to bring fans, from all parts of the Club, together. It will also engage with fans directly about the project. Why isn’t it already talking to fans? Why isn’t it better organised? Until the deal was completed, there couldn’t be any sharing of information. It was only once the deal was done that the Working Group could begin to take shape. So it is very early days but things are beginning to happen quite quickly behind the scenes and it will be ready to launch next week. It will have its own communications channels and those need to be set up properly, even if it is only interim. Who’s on the Working Group? Who’s running the Working Group? No one group is in charge of the Working Group. Labels will be left at the door and the best way to describe it is to say that the Working Group will be like Switzerland – neutral. It will be a place for fans to share ideas with challenge but without criticism. Initial members have been identified but there will further people added. It is important that the membership reflects different interests and groupings from around the Club, so there will be a call going out to the whole fanbase asking for people to step forward to help with the work of the Working Group. What happens with the Working Group from next week? There is an outline scoping document that lays out the broad-brush approach being taken to enable everything to be done within the timescales. That includes a strategy for communicating with fans, including events over the next few months. The Well Society was cited as a best in practice case study in fan ownership? Why is that the case and what can we learn from them? The Well Society has achieved so much in three years using a simple but effective structure, with clearly defined roles and responsibilities for all involved. Having raised almost £800,000 for their club over that period, it shows the possibilities of fan ownership at its best so there’s a lot we can learn from Motherwell, good and bad. But there will also be an opportunity to hear about projects that have gone wrong so that we can avoid a similar situation. When will we know more from the Working Group? The Working Group will go public in the course of next week. It has four months to come up with a fan ownership model and secure fan input and approval. Will 3BC hand over the shares as planned? Colin Weir has made it clear he doesn’t want to own a football club – he has carried out these deals through 3BC to pave the way for fan ownership. The land and stand is in the process of being transferred back to the Club. That means Thistle will own the full stadium and its environs again for the first time in over 10 years. The 55% shareholding will be transferred to fan ownership no later than 30th March 2020. Between now and then, 3BC is asking Thistle fans to come together and bring forward a workable model for fan ownership through a Working Group. The shares will be handed on. What happens to the small shareholders who haven’t had the opportunity to sell their shares? 3BC is looking at a way for the small shareholders (who own around 8% of the Club) to benefit from the offer made to the majority shareholding group. There is likely to be three options – an offer to purchase individual’s shares; to assist them to gift them to the new fans’ shareholders group; or to keep them. What’s the future of the management team? On day one of the new ownership, the interim Board and 3BC told the manager that the management team had their full support and that he would be given time and backing to build the team. What’s the Club’s aspiration for this season? Clearly, the short-term objective is to move off the bottom of the table and start climbing the league. But in discussion with the manager, we mustn’t limit our aspirations, even though it is currently challenging, so the interim Board will fully support the management team in their objective of finishing as high in the league as possible. Will there be extra money for the January window? In the usual way, the manager has put his costed plans to the interim Board and they have agreed to his proposal for activity in the transfer window. The interim Board’s objective is to support the manager’s aim to finish as high as we can, so they are acutely aware of the importance of financing the manager’s plans in this window. How will the club be financed after 30th March? Exactly as it is now and has always been, by being self-funded via various income streams, which are being strengthened to increase monies into the Club. In addition, money from fans pledging money to the new fan ownership group will come in to play as fans decide how to spend it. Are there any plans to invest in or develop the stadium following the purchase of the land and stand? Are there any plans to improve “the bing”? 3BC has no plans to do anything major whilst they are interim owners. It will be for fans to consider what to do with the ground once they are owners. Is there going to be a training ground? The opportunity to buy the majority shareholding and land at Firhill arose and a decision was made to use the majority of 3BC’s existing budget to fund those deals. Regrettably, that means that the training ground will not go ahead at present but it is something others might want to look at in future. Was there ever actually going to be a training ground? Yes. 3BC had set aside a budget for the new training ground. After a false start with a site at Kirkintilloch, agreement had been reached to purchase land around a mile away from Firhill. When Colin Weir stepped away from Thistle in July, 3BC put that on hold. The purchase of the shares and land used a significant chunk of that money so it is no longer possible to restart the project. What has the deal meant for the future of the academy? The arrangement Colin had prior to stepping back in July – to fund the Academy to 2021 – has been restarted. It restores stability and allows the Academy the time to transition to being financially independent in 2022. What will be the involvement of Colin Weir / 3BC after 30th March? There will be no further involvement for 3BC after that but Colin will continue as the Patron of the Club and as a fan. 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VladimirMooc Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I, for one, am flabbergasted that Jacqui Low is actually involved after all. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, VladimirMooc said: I, for one, am flabbergasted that Jacqui Low is actually involved after all. Yes, it was pretty obvious that she was lurking in the background as Colin Weir's pal/PR supremo/HR enforcer. I'll be worried if she is in any way involved after 30 March next year, because if I understand this correctly, Weir's company should step away completely at that point. One name which is conspicuously absent from this press release is Paul Goodwin. It's a blow that the training ground plans have definitely been abandoned. Maybe it's just me but I don't really understand why Colin Weir chose to buy the club to hand to the fans (I am not aware of any great groundswell of demand or urgent need for fan ownership) rather than contributing something as practical as a new training ground. Overall, despite the attempt at positive PR spin here, this Q&A doesn't tell us much and for some reason I feel more suspicious now than I did before reading it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) Sooo... the training ground was an expensive flop? Kind of knew when we were relegated that it was going to get loused tbh. Wonder if it'll get resurrected with TBC/Weir backing if we end up back in the top flight, though, but then that still runs the risk of us getting relegated and the whole thing getting scrapped again. Think it's finished, unfortunately. Good to see the academy funding will continue in any event. Edited December 6, 2019 by Thistle_do_nicely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladimirMooc Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, VictorOnopko said: Yes, it was pretty obvious that she was lurking in the background as Colin Weir's pal/PR supremo/HR enforcer. I'll be worried if she is in any way involved after 30 March next year, because if I understand this correctly, Weir's company should step away completely at that point. One name which is conspicuously absent from this press release is Paul Goodwin. It's a blow that the training ground plans have definitely been abandoned. Maybe it's just me but I don't really understand why Colin Weir chose to buy the club to hand to the fans (I am not aware of any great groundswell of demand or urgent need for fan ownership) rather than contributing something as practical as a new training ground. Overall, despite the attempt at positive PR spin here, this Q&A doesn't tell us much and for some reason I feel more suspicious now than I did before reading it. Your last paragraph sort of sums up 90% of the attempts at transparency and openness under Low previously. All filler that can leave more questions than answers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: Sooo... the training ground was an expensive flop? Kind of knew when we were relegated that it was going to get loused tbh. Wonder if it'll get resurrected with TBC/Weir backing if we end up back in the top flight, though, but then that still runs the risk of us getting relegated and the whole thing getting scrapped again. Think it's finished, unfortunately. Good to see the academy funding will continue in any event. Reads that 3BC won't be directly funding any purchase or development of a training ground. That'll be something for the board and fans to decide on. Probably piggy back an existing facility such as Garscube or Petershill which has been mooted elsewhere. After 3BC funds end for the Academy in 2021 it has to become self sufficient too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 @VictorOnopko Paul Goodwin is organising the working group apparently He IS effectively TFE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladimirMooc Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, jagfox99 said: @VictorOnopko Paul Goodwin is organising the working group apparently He IS effectively TFE. My flabber is once again gasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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