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Job done!

SNP took my constituency, Ross Greer (above) won a seat, the Scottish Labour vermin destroyed (just their scum councillors to go), the Scottish Greens resurgent, the Fib Dems beaten into a humiliating fifth place in Scotland and Wales, all in all it couldn't have been sweeter.

Plus points resultant.

1. The SNP are back in charge and the Greens will keep them in check to a workable degree - preventing the "cult" tendencies they were in danger of slipping into where problems were airbrushed & allowing the nonsense in places like Bellshill & Coatbridge to happen as a result.

2. The Tories can no longer hide behind not being the Opposition up here, so they will be far easier hung out to dry for their brutal policies and that of their masters down south. There's been a tendency for Scottish voters to forget "cuddly Ruth" is part and parcel of the same monstrous regiment running the entire country in Westminster.

3. Holyrood has a strong Whopping Thundercunt.

Haha brilliant WTM , absolutely qual photoshop bantz mate.
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I never realised David Coburn or Mundell were in the LGBT camp either.

That's statistically mental with four of the party leaders and the Scottish Secretary. Non-LGBT people who want to get to the top in Scottish politics are clearly discriminated against. If there's going to be positive discrimination introduced anywhere, it should be here, especially in positions which have a huge influence on the running of our Christian country.

I'd better add that I'm not serious btw, calm doon.

The Christian Party must be perma-raging though.

 

The Scottish Christian Party were happily bankrolled for years from George Hargreaves royalties for writing the Sinitta hit "So Macho" so popular with the Pink crowd: so you had a bunch of bible bashing gay bashers being bankrolled by gays.

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What a state to get yourself in. Stop supporting politics like you support football. Open your mind.

Brexit is definitely not the best chance for Scottish independence. Actually I'd bet that sturgeon and co wouldn't want the opportunity. It forces their hand.

Scottish independence looks like it's on the horizon. Unless there's a massive change the electorate will gradually shift the way of yessrs (age demographics, passion and commitment to the cause, Tories in power in wm).

Yes lost the referendum. That has to be accepted. Calling another in under ten years would be a huge gamble. Long game required. Greens will keep the snp on their toes.

I think its naive as f**k tbh to think independence is inevitable, the Tories are asset stripping Scotland as we speak, we will be on our knees financially by the time they're done and independence will seem ludicrous to soft no's.

All the while the unionist press will be creating the anti-independence narrative and snp bad.

Polls show in the event of Brexit independence gets the support of around 60% of people, no poll in any circumstance ever has come remotely close to that, with Brexit we win by a mile, without it its anybody's guess.

And demographics don't mean much in ten years with the unionist government and media spending the next ten years undermining the cause.

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My musings.

I got Western wrong, the noises I was hearing was that Toni had it in the bag so I was wrong with that. Well done to the Libs, they ran a superb campaign.

I knew Ben would win Leith, that one was obvious. I was doing the knock ups at around 7.30, most had already voted and looking at the sheets, it was obvious that we had our vote out.

Easy prediction.

I never really got involved with Eastern despite it being my branch. Ash ran an 'interesting' campaign, she was elected on the tidal wave of yellow last year - I'm not saying anything more except HQ will probably be investigating the campaign out here and I want nothing to do with the branch from this campaign forward.

There was a lot of tactical voting going on in South again, canvassing the Murrays told me that (folk in Edinburgh will know it, detached houses with BMWs in the drive). It really is Red Morningside now and I suspected that there would be more going the other way as well. The shy unionists looked at who would best represent them and in most cases, it was the Tories. Say what you want, but having a clear message, sticking to it and an identifiable strategy worked like a treat for the Tories, they really have sown up the unionist vote.

So reading the runes, it was obvious that there wouldn't be a overall majority this time out. We could argue about the merits of both votes SNP or Greens splitting votes after standing constituency candidates, but it's all over now and I see no point of chucking rocks at each other. Every party won to a degree except Labour, the Libs held on, the Greens overtook the Libs, the Tories came second and the SNP won convincingly, that's how it will be spun.

I'm happy, Libby will be happy, the Tories will be happy, the Greens will be happy, Labour are McPASOK.

I've said it before and was laughed at and probably will be again for this - take care of your enemies at home before having another go at a referendum which I don't want till after 2021 at least. To use a historical phrase - 'I mhak siccar' (I've edited that phrase 5 times, if it puts another 'h' in it, my phone is getting launched )

 

Interesting take on Ash Denham's campaign...

 

I was at one of the Edinburgh Eastern hustings & I wasn't impressed whatsoever with Ash, she was the weakest link of the constituency candidates. However, I did vote for Ash yesterday, I must say that I didn't vote for her because I was impressed by the calibre of her abilities, she only received my vote to stop Kezia Dugdale from winning the constituency.

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I gave up believing these "people would support independence IF" polls when the Tories won the UK GE. Remember all those referendum polls that showed independence support would rise to c60% if the Tories were to get a future majority? To counter them, Miliband tried to argue that Labour winning was inevitable and even Ruthie claimed it was unlikely the Tories would win in 2015. Well, the Tories *did* win, the rUK *did* impose a majority Tory government on us (and look like doing so for a long time), and yet this massive Indy surge hasn't automatically appeared.

Scottish respondents to polls that ask if they'd support independence under certain future circumstances are bullshitters. When those circumstances eventuate, they shit themselves and the braggartliness crumbles at the prospect of actually doing something other than being the UK's bitch.

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I think its naive as f**k tbh to think independence is inevitable, the Tories are asset stripping Scotland as we speak, we will be on our knees financially by the time they're done and independence will seem ludicrous to soft no's.

All the while the unionist press will be creating the anti-independence narrative and snp bad.

Polls show in the event of Brexit independence gets the support of around 60% of people, no poll in any circumstance ever has come remotely close to that, with Brexit we win by a mile, without it its anybody's guess.

And demographics don't mean much in ten years with the unionist government and media spending the next ten years undermining the cause.

Where is this polling information? Wishful thinking imo. Why do you think Nicola has been so tepid when forced on the issue? She knows it's far too soon.

The press are dying. Newspapers are fucked, especially the likes of the daily record. Social media eats that up in ten years.

The yes campaign needs to build a stronger economic case (for the soft no's). Personally, I think they need bolder policies.

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^ my team sevco 5088

Most west end student snp voters

"Dad I hate the Tories "

" right son , I will pick you up in the new Mercedes this weekend , your mother has cous cous to go with the dinner on Friday night, I hope you haven't gone to overboard on your allowance , "

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Most Glaswegian snp supporters

"So what appeals to you dad about the snp's manifesto"

"Chunky ar la , albu gu brah , freedom . wee man "

 

Sadly that is what Scottish politics amounts to now - the constitution takes precendent importance over substance, sadly.

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He really does have some temper. Holds him back in life I reckon because he is a good writer with a very sharp mind.

You see the SNP taking on lesser people as advisors and whatnot but Stuart can hardly be surprised given his temperament.

His temper comes from the fact that he is an ugly, gaming geek who has little or no chance of ever getting his end away. That, and being an SNP dick.

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Sadly that is what Scottish politics amounts to now - the constitution takes precendent importance over substance, sadly.

Could it not just possibly be that the constitutional position of a country dictates a lot of national policy, given the way the UK operates as a unitary state with partial devolution of some important things, some unimportant things, whilst retaining some important things, some unimportant things?

Most countries don't have this question hanging over them because they're not just devolved regions of larger countries. It is the elephant in the room, and Scotland can hardly ignore it and get on with being a devolved bit of North Britain as long as it identifies itself as a nation whose sovereign parliaments are provided by a larger neighbouring nation, with whom it is in a three-hundred-year-old political union. The *only* alternatives are a proper constitutional reworking (e.g. federalism or Devo Max), independence, the abolition of Holyrood and complete absorption into a country of Great Britain or (unlikely) mass amnesia and people forgetting that Scotland's nationhood has ever been debated.

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Interesting take on Ash Denham's campaign...

I was at one of the Edinburgh Eastern hustings & I wasn't impressed whatsoever with Ash, she was the weakest link of the constituency candidates. However, I did vote for Ash yesterday, I must say that I didn't vote for her because I was impressed by the calibre of her abilities, she only received my vote to stop Kezia Dugdale from winning the constituency.

She was bested by everybody including Kez at the hustings. No doubt she would point to the poll and go 'see, I romped home', but the local campaign was one of the worst I have ever witnessed, and I saw Neil Hay's last year round - she got in on the rosette rather than her own actions.

I held my nose and voted for her for the exact same reasons, saying that, Kez winning would have given the branch the kick up the arse it so badly needs - I actually know branch members of long standing that voted labour specifically for that reason. These are people I have known and campaigned with for years, they are not newcomers or people who change allegiances lightly so it shows how bad it was.

BTW, Kenny is currently on his holidays, I was speaking to his missus last night, he's certainly not missing the fiasco back home and I don't blame him.

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She was bested by everybody including Kez at the hustings. No doubt she would point to the poll and go 'see, I romped home', but the local campaign was one of the worst I have ever witnessed, and I saw Neil Hay's last year round - she got in on the rosette rather than her own actions.

I held my nose and voted for her for the exact same reasons, saying that, Kez winning would have given the branch the kick up the arse it so badly needs - I actually know branch members of long standing that voted labour specifically for that reason. These are people I have known and campaigned with for years, they are not newcomers or people who change allegiances lightly so it shows how bad it was.

BTW, Kenny is currently on his holidays, I was speaking to his missus last night, he's certainly not missing the fiasco back home and I don't blame him.

 

The whole sending her children to private school fiasco, was very awkward to watch at the hustings.

 

Also, a young child asked Ash for an apology over something that was said about the named persons scheme - apparently Lloyd Quinan represented Ash at a hustings that she couldn't attend, when he was asked about the named persons scheme, he supposedly said that it wasn't 'mandatory'. Ash didn't exactly handle the situation gracefully to say the least.

 

Kenny MacAskill will be sorely missed, I know that he is divivise character because of the whole centralised police Scotland debacle, but he was a great public servant to our constituency.

 

I am a member of the Eastern branch myself also, I have been put of form going to branch meetings because of some of the posturing of activists in my local area.

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Why aren't the Tories concerned that the UK is a one party state given the state of the opposition? They seemed to think Labour being so shite in Scotland made it a one party pretendy state, and that this was bad for democracy.

Because like almost all politicians / parties they can be hypocritical when ever it suits them :)

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