Peppino Impastato Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I don't think they've had an awful election, but it's certainly a bit of a reality check for the SNP. Harping back to 2011 is a bit silly considering the there's been a referendum, then they romped home at the GE since. They won 80% of constituency seats last night compared to 95% at Westminster. In a completely different electoral system. They also got more votes than Labour and the Tories combined. You should really mind your own business, surely you must be run off your feet howling at the moon with the Euro's coming up and the whole continent dividing itself along national lines and grouping people together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 My point however is that, on the list vote, despite the SNP total number of votes going up, their share went down... from 44.0% to 41.7% (I think). That therefore helps explain why they didn't win a majority. Not really. The main factor in terms of the list seats is that the SNP were pretty unfortunate in how the other vote shares played out. Both the Tories and Labour received just over 20% of the vote while winning very few constituencies in one area (Tories) or anywhere at all (Labour).This meant that both parties stood to gain 2-3 list seats each in most regions before their list vote was reduced to the threshold of around 6% of the vote. Had the Labour vote tanked a little further, down to 17% or so on the list, then they'd have probably lost their last list seats across the board and some of those could have been gained by the SNP. Even had the SNP list held at 45% nationally then in most regions they'd have still been reduced to under 6% once their vote was divided by their constituency seats and so wouldn't have fared well on the list anyway. The chief reason why they didn't win a majority overall because certain, clearly crap campaigns massively under-performed the national swing: particularly on the east coast as well as against Jabba the Hut. Whoever is in charge of the Edinburgh campaign in particular needs to get their jotters as a parade of gaffe-prone, Westminster candidates and clearly piss-poor campaign efforts Hibsed what should have been at least a comfortable, majority SNP urban centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Incidentally - what an utter humiliation for Labour down south in that their barometer for success is now that they did a bit less bad than people predicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Well pleased with that tbh. SNP increasing their vote by more than 200k First party, in Scotland, to do 3 in a row Labour pumped 😂 Lid Dems pumped 😂 Cameron's party as the official opposition 😂 No UKIP. Green breakthrough, headed by the magnificent Patrick Harvick 👠And still a pro indy majority. It can't really get better than that imo Unionists ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Unionists ) Whit they like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Incidentally - what an utter humiliation for Labour down south in that their barometer for success is now that they did a bit less bad than people predicted Christ you're a tedious c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Careful now: looks like Ol' Yeller is about to challenge someone to a fight on the Internet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Whit they like Still living in a unionist Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 If only that daft tit God had included "thou shalt not lie" on his rule book, things might have been different. He really dropped the ball on that one. Except he did. It was the 8th one - Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Some people owe Mr Rational an apology. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Still living in a unionist Scotland ^ my team sevco 5088 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 How? That would be 'why?' Probably I'm one... I said your prediction of the missed majority was 'bollocks' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 You lose the argument with that guff Let's just move on and have the SNP govern the country as the electorate wants. You lost the referendum. Accept it, deal with it and move on. The amount of time donated to continuing the independence debate can only be to the detriment of running the country. Its a fact, that's what polls show. The electorate wants a referendum, so we should have another one asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 ^ my team sevco 5088 Your goddam right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Its a fact, that's what polls show. The electorate wants a referendum, so we should have another one asap. Lols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 WOS ' aborted live text (after 4 seats were announced) is good for a short laugh. You can tell he threw his toys out of the pram after the lib dems took the northern isles with increased majorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 We're not talking about Westminster and the greens will never get within a million miles of the snps success, they are a protest party.You people are just upset cause I'm telling it like it is rather than how you'd like it to be. What a state to get yourself in. Stop supporting politics like you support football. Open your mind. Brexit is definitely not the best chance for Scottish independence. Actually I'd bet that sturgeon and co wouldn't want the opportunity. It forces their hand. Scottish independence looks like it's on the horizon. Unless there's a massive change the electorate will gradually shift the way of yessrs (age demographics, passion and commitment to the cause, Tories in power in wm). Yes lost the referendum. That has to be accepted. Calling another in under ten years would be a huge gamble. Long game required. Greens will keep the snp on their toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Hibee Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I think that the results from the Holyrood '16 elections solidify that Scotland isn't some socialist paradise. The two highest placing parties were the only major parties not proposing an increase on taxation; whilst all other parties advocating an increase in taxation, with all their seats combined, only have four more than the Conservatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Incidentally - what an utter humiliation for Labour down south in that their barometer for success is now that they did a bit less bad than people predicted Why aren't the Tories concerned that the UK is a one party state given the state of the opposition? They seemed to think Labour being so shite in Scotland made it a one party pretendy state, and that this was bad for democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Tory chants on their next away day "We are coming for you , we are coming for you , scottish national party we are coming for you" With oor Dave in his best stone island clobber letting off a smoke bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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