Election Night

[Antlion]

Except he did.

It was the 8th one - Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour

So the island hicks have endorsed breaking the 8th commandment? That's worth a plague of locusts or at least the killing of their first born, surely?

[John Lambies Doos]

Baby King II banned already )

[McRuffian]

John Lambies Doos fighting with a banned spammer.

Head's gone.

[AUFC90]

I think that the results from the Holyrood '16 elections solidify that Scotland isn't some socialist paradise.

The two highest placing parties were the only major parties not proposing an increase on taxation; whilst all other parties advocating an increase in taxation, with all their seats combined, only have four more than the Conservatives.

Probably because all the other parties tax proposals were shite and not in the least bit socialist, apart from the greens who increased their vote. Raising taxes can't automatically be called socialist. And most people aren't socialist. I know I'm not. I'm left of centre but not socialist, Scotland is more left leaning than England but it certainly cannot be called a socialist country and thank God for that.

[Sloop John B]

Disappointed to see Dumfries and Galloway go full blue but i'm not shocked by it. Along with the independence issue, which most people are still very strongly against, the Conservatives played the local card very well as neither of the two SNP candidates live in the area. That along with the fact that the infrastructure in the area is still very poor and a perception that the South of Scotland has been neglected in favour of the central belt played into their hands. I'd imagine the situation is pretty similar in the borders. Joanne McAlpine is a charlatan anyway but I gave  her my vote with great reluctance, shame she got in on the list. 

 

It's quite sad that despite people constantly complaining about cuts in public services, nobody is willing to finance them. I don't see there being much change in the SNP's policies regardless of whether the Greens get a say or not.

[Jacksgranda]

I don't think they've had an awful election, but it's certainly a bit of a reality check for the SNP. Harping back to 2011 is a bit silly considering the there's been a referendum, then they romped home at the GE since. They won 80% of constituency seats last night compared to 95% at Westminster.

 

In PR elections it's harder to rack up a lot of seats.

[Southside Hibee]

Probably because all the other parties tax proposals were shite and not in the least bit socialist, apart from the greens who increased their vote. Raising taxes can't automatically be called socialist. And most people aren't socialist. I know I'm not. I'm left of centre but not socialist, Scotland is more left leaning than England but it certainly cannot be called a socialist country and thank God for that.

 

Raising taxes is seen as a policy that a left leaning party would articulate, I can understand your feelings on the Scottish Lib Dems' & Scottish Labour's tax plan not being that radical, but it is principal that is seen as left leaning.

 

I certainly agree with you on the notion of Scotland thankfully not being akin to Cuba.

[WaffenThinMint]

Liked the headline in Aberdeen's Evening Express:

 

[Granny Danger]

In PR elections it's harder to rack up a lot of seats.

He's comparing constituencies only tbf.

[StreetwiseHercules]

And its so far led to a large upsurge in the Tory vote.

IMO it will increase.

The Tories doubled their number of votes from 2011, according to Wikipedia.

[Colkitto]

The Greens will get some concessions in the parliament over the next 5 years.

Their party grew post indyref1 on the back of Yes voters joining the party. I would imagine they got more than a few List votes from the SNP.

 

If they vote down a budget or fail to back the SNP Goverment on a major issue then they could set themselves back decades in the next election. 

[StreetwiseHercules]

WOS ' aborted live text (after 4 seats were announced) is good for a short laugh. You can tell he threw his toys out of the pram after the lib dems took the northern isles with increased majorities.

He really does have some temper. Holds him back in life I reckon because he is a good writer with a very sharp mind.

You see the SNP taking on lesser people as advisors and whatnot but Stuart can hardly be surprised given his temperament.

[Mr Rational]

That would be 'why?'

Probably I'm one... I said your prediction of the missed majority was 'bollocks'

My musings.

I got Western wrong, the noises I was hearing was that Toni had it in the bag so I was wrong with that. Well done to the Libs, they ran a superb campaign.

I knew Ben would win Leith, that one was obvious. I was doing the knock ups at around 7.30, most had already voted and looking at the sheets, it was obvious that we had our vote out.

Easy prediction.

I never really got involved with Eastern despite it being my branch. Ash ran an 'interesting' campaign, she was elected on the tidal wave of yellow last year - I'm not saying anything more except HQ will probably be investigating the campaign out here and I want nothing to do with the branch from this campaign forward.

There was a lot of tactical voting going on in South again, canvassing the Murrays told me that (folk in Edinburgh will know it, detached houses with BMWs in the drive). It really is Red Morningside now and I suspected that there would be more going the other way as well. The shy unionists looked at who would best represent them and in most cases, it was the Tories. Say what you want, but having a clear message, sticking to it and an identifiable strategy worked like a treat for the Tories, they really have sown up the unionist vote.

So reading the runes, it was obvious that there wouldn't be a overall majority this time out. We could argue about the merits of both votes SNP or Greens splitting votes after standing constituency candidates, but it's all over now and I see no point of chucking rocks at each other. Every party won to a degree except Labour, the Libs held on, the Greens overtook the Libs, the Tories came second and the SNP won convincingly, that's how it will be spun.

I'm happy, Libby will be happy, the Tories will be happy, the Greens will be happy, Labour are McPASOK.

I've said it before and was laughed at and probably will be again for this - take care of your enemies at home before having another go at a referendum which I don't want till after 2021 at least. To use a historical phrase - 'I mhak siccar' (I've edited that phrase 5 times, if it puts another 'h' in it, my phone is getting launched 😡)

[Antlion]

^ my team sevco 5088

[YassinMoutaouakil]

Job done!

SNP took my constituency, Ross Greer (above) won a seat, the Scottish Labour vermin destroyed (just their scum councillors to go), the Scottish Greens resurgent, the Fib Dems beaten into a humiliating fifth place in Scotland and Wales, all in all it couldn't have been sweeter.

Plus points resultant.

1. The SNP are back in charge and the Greens will keep them in check to a workable degree - preventing the "cult" tendencies they were in danger of slipping into where problems were airbrushed & allowing the nonsense in places like Bellshill & Coatbridge to happen as a result.

2. The Tories can no longer hide behind not being the Opposition up here, so they will be far easier hung out to dry for their brutal policies and that of their masters down south. There's been a tendency for Scottish voters to forget "cuddly Ruth" is part and parcel of the same monstrous regiment running the entire country in Westminster.

3. Holyrood has a strong Whopping Thundercunt.

Haha brilliant WTM , absolutely qual photoshop bantz mate.

[WaffenThinMint]

I never realised David Coburn or Mundell were in the LGBT camp either.

That's statistically mental with four of the party leaders and the Scottish Secretary. Non-LGBT people who want to get to the top in Scottish politics are clearly discriminated against. If there's going to be positive discrimination introduced anywhere, it should be here, especially in positions which have a huge influence on the running of our Christian country.

I'd better add that I'm not serious btw, calm doon.

The Christian Party must be perma-raging though.

 

The Scottish Christian Party were happily bankrolled for years from George Hargreaves royalties for writing the Sinitta hit "So Macho" so popular with the Pink crowd: so you had a bunch of bible bashing gay bashers being bankrolled by gays.

[Mr Rational]

Phone launched. 😡

[Peppino Impastato]

 

What a state to get yourself in. Stop supporting politics like you support football. Open your mind.

Brexit is definitely not the best chance for Scottish independence. Actually I'd bet that sturgeon and co wouldn't want the opportunity. It forces their hand.

Scottish independence looks like it's on the horizon. Unless there's a massive change the electorate will gradually shift the way of yessrs (age demographics, passion and commitment to the cause, Tories in power in wm).

Yes lost the referendum. That has to be accepted. Calling another in under ten years would be a huge gamble. Long game required. Greens will keep the snp on their toes.

I think its naive as f**k tbh to think independence is inevitable, the Tories are asset stripping Scotland as we speak, we will be on our knees financially by the time they're done and independence will seem ludicrous to soft no's.

All the while the unionist press will be creating the anti-independence narrative and snp bad.

Polls show in the event of Brexit independence gets the support of around 60% of people, no poll in any circumstance ever has come remotely close to that, with Brexit we win by a mile, without it its anybody's guess.

And demographics don't mean much in ten years with the unionist government and media spending the next ten years undermining the cause.

[Dunning1874]

Phone launched.

 

That's not your phone doing that, it's the P&B swear filter! In honour of the much-missed Mhak's habit of referring to clubs like Saint Mhirren & Ahbergreen.

[Southside Hibee]

My musings.

I got Western wrong, the noises I was hearing was that Toni had it in the bag so I was wrong with that. Well done to the Libs, they ran a superb campaign.

I knew Ben would win Leith, that one was obvious. I was doing the knock ups at around 7.30, most had already voted and looking at the sheets, it was obvious that we had our vote out.

Easy prediction.

I never really got involved with Eastern despite it being my branch. Ash ran an 'interesting' campaign, she was elected on the tidal wave of yellow last year - I'm not saying anything more except HQ will probably be investigating the campaign out here and I want nothing to do with the branch from this campaign forward.

There was a lot of tactical voting going on in South again, canvassing the Murrays told me that (folk in Edinburgh will know it, detached houses with BMWs in the drive). It really is Red Morningside now and I suspected that there would be more going the other way as well. The shy unionists looked at who would best represent them and in most cases, it was the Tories. Say what you want, but having a clear message, sticking to it and an identifiable strategy worked like a treat for the Tories, they really have sown up the unionist vote.

So reading the runes, it was obvious that there wouldn't be a overall majority this time out. We could argue about the merits of both votes SNP or Greens splitting votes after standing constituency candidates, but it's all over now and I see no point of chucking rocks at each other. Every party won to a degree except Labour, the Libs held on, the Greens overtook the Libs, the Tories came second and the SNP won convincingly, that's how it will be spun.

I'm happy, Libby will be happy, the Tories will be happy, the Greens will be happy, Labour are McPASOK.

I've said it before and was laughed at and probably will be again for this - take care of your enemies at home before having another go at a referendum which I don't want till after 2021 at least. To use a historical phrase - 'I mhak siccar' (I've edited that phrase 5 times, if it puts another 'h' in it, my phone is getting launched )

 

Interesting take on Ash Denham's campaign...

 

I was at one of the Edinburgh Eastern hustings & I wasn't impressed whatsoever with Ash, she was the weakest link of the constituency candidates. However, I did vote for Ash yesterday, I must say that I didn't vote for her because I was impressed by the calibre of her abilities, she only received my vote to stop Kezia Dugdale from winning the constituency.