Quitongo's Left Peg Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The long, slow deterioration of Celtic PLC has me like: The quick, sharp death of Rangers F.C. had me like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I've not lurked occasionally enough to know these particular posters but I have lurked enough to get that people will be accused of being aliases. On this occasion you have nothing to fear. I simply had a couple of glasses or red wine last night and this seems to have led me to finally register. Merlot from the fridge. Sheamus found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 All these selection of the finest celtic supportong minds to come together and get discussing their ideas deep into the night and you can almost guarantee what their brainstorm is going to conclude with , signing a Celtic minded manager with an Irish Catholic background being preferable but not essential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 All these selection of the finest celtic supportong minds to come together and get discussing their ideas deep into the night and you can almost guarantee what their brainstorm is going to conclude with , signing a Celtic minded manager with an Irish Catholic background being preferable but not essential Martin O'Neill for me. Let him build a new team with Griffiths as the talisman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I think a big part of Celtic problem is that the fans, players and the board have developed an arrogance that means they think all they should need to do is turn up. As someone said earlier in this thread, they took a risk with Deila in terms of changing approach. For it to work, I think it would have required everyone to buy in. Instead, you had players that liked the comfort zone of the Lennon regime being unwilling to change their approach, fans who aren't happy at the prospect of short term pain for long term gain, and a board who really did not back the manager in terms of bringing in players who will fit with what he is trying to do. All in all it is a bit of a clusterfuck and it will take a good appointment to sort it out. Deila will take the majority of the blame but Dermott Desmond, Peter Lawwell, John Park and 5 or 6 of the senior players are equally as culpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Will be interesting to see of the missing Celtic fans return now their cousins are back in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 Will be interesting to see of the missing Celtic fans return now their cousins are back in the league. I won't be back until Peter Lawwell is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I won't be back until Peter Lawwell is gone. You know that Lawwell is an employee like any other and his continued presence is down to the board of directors believing he is doing his job well enough? Get rid of Lawwell and they will replace him with someone they expect to do the same job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 You know that Lawwell is an employee like any other and his continued presence is down to the board of directors believing he is doing his job well enough? Get rid of Lawwell and they will replace him with someone they expect to do the same job. That's a simplistic way of looking at it. I know what you are saying, but Lawwell is influential and plays a large part in setting the tone at Celtic. It's entirely possible that whoever replaced him would be as much as of a p***k, but I doubt it and would be willing to give a new person a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 That's a simplistic way of looking at it. I know what you are saying, but Lawwell is influential and plays a large part in setting the tone at Celtic. It's entirely possible that whoever replaced him would be as much as of a p***k, but I doubt it and would be willing to give a new person a chance. It's not simplistic. The board employ Lawwell to do the job they feel needs to be done. If the same board that feel Lawwell is doing a good job remain in place, they will likely employ someone just like Lawwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 It's not simplistic. The board employ Lawwell to do the job they feel needs to be done. If the same board that feel Lawwell is doing a good job remain in place, they will likely employ someone just like Lawwell. There is nobody just like Lawwell. Lawwell is not just someone who is employed by the board. He is of the board, an executive member of it. And not only that, he heads the board as Chief Executive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Perhaps they should all be supping at the same soup kitchen. TBF they are all singing from the same hymn sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 There is nobody just like Lawwell. Lawwell is not just someone who is employed by the board. He is of the board, an executive member of it. And not only that, he heads the board as Chief Executive. Perhaps I put that across incorrectly. He is there under appointment by the guys who own the company. Guys like Dermott Desmond, James Keane and Chris Trainer. They are the folk who have real influence on things. If they did not want Lawwell in place, they would ensure he was removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 Perhaps I put that across incorrectly. He is there under appointment by the guys who own the company. Guys like Dermott Desmond, James Keane and Chris Trainer. They are the folk who have real influence on things. If they did not want Lawwell in place, they would ensure he was removed. I believe they owned the club with previous Chief Execs who were less odious that Lawwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I believe they owned the club with previous Chief Execs who were less odious that Lawwell. He replaced the last one in 2003. If they don't think he is doing a good job, they have taken their time in deciding that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 What do you think of the green brigade? On the fence. Are they still even a thing? Some of what they do is good but at the same time it is a group undoubtedly full of arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I hope Celtic die like their business partners did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 I hope Celtic die like their business partners did. We might yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I can see what previous posters are saying about Peter Lawell - he's undeniable a hugely influential person and is in effective charge of the club. However, he's an employee and the shareholders want him there, they've clearly given him a job to do and he's doing it to their satisfaction. It's not like Romanov at Hearts or even the old Celtic board with the Kellys and the Whites - this guy is an employee like Delia or Lennon and if you sack him your going to get someone who might not be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 For the last four years all they've only cared about Rangers while ignoring their own club, every recent Celtic agm has been about Rangers while the Celtic board got an easy ride. The sheep have been improving and gradually building confidence over the last few years, can they go further? Arts have the makings of a good team and should be in there again next season. Rangers should be in amongst those teams and with a few more players brought in, hopefully hit the ground running like arts did. Could we have a four way fight for the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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