Corners are shite

[Cowden Cowboy]

The linesman has to look at a ball being struck whilst - simultaneously - look across a line directly in front of him. Given that the ball could be getting passed from 85 degrees to one side, being able to judge the line in front of him (even assuming he can keep up with the trained athlete sprinting at full speed to give himself a decent angle) is often going to be nothing more than a guess.

Also the 'interfering with play' aspect is dubious at best. A striker isn't interfering with play but a defender is? So a defender goes back to mark a striker and the defender is interfering but the striker he's gone back to cover isn't??

All the while, the linesman also has to look directly along the goaline to judge in case a long range shot nearly crosses the line.

With so many variables, offside is basically just a guess which is wrong far too often. Either the rule should be changed or the way it is officiated should be.

I think you mean challenging or difficult - it is certainly not impossible and indeed there are many occasions when it is quite simple to see

[tamba_trio]

Yes there are times that it's easy but there's also a huge chunk which is basically a guess.  The reason I suggested narrowing the range of offside decisions was to try and make this easier.

At the moment how many offside decisions are wrong?  15%?  20%?  It's a huge amount and a completely unacceptable margin of error when you're charging folk £25+ to watch the game, particularly given the impact of such wrong decisions.

 

I'm open to other suggestions on fixing it, but just accepting that probably 30% of offside decisions are little more than a guess doesn't seem like the proper way to officiate the game.

[Meth Damon]

Change is bad

[gannonball]

I can remember Craig brown saying on off the ball a few weeks ago that at the last world cup the success rate to goals from corners was 40.

I think before doing anything regarding corners we need to stamp out the man handling from set pieces. Should give a higher success rate.

[Uncle Psychosis]

Stopping the clock everytime the ball went out or a foul occured would make matches incredibly long. I can't remember where I read it but I'm sure a study was done that concluded the average 'ball in play' time was around 70 minutes.

 

You'd make the game shorter to compensate. Instead of the current 90 minutes you'd play something like 70 minutes "real playing time". 

[hellbhoy]

On 09/04/2016 at 12:43, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Here's how we fix them: we let the corner taker take as many touches as possible.

Teams rarely score from corners and it just slows down the game. Letting an attacker take as many touches as they wish from a corner, rather than one touch like a free kick or penalty, would let players take a quick corner without having to sacrifice another attacking player in the corner to pass it to.

If a striker's one on one and the keeper makes a save the striker can sprint with the ball to the corner and take it quickly and run back in on goal with his team mates giving him options for the pass.

Thoughts?

Change the corners to penalties instead.

[parxyz]

Yellow cards should be 10 minute sin bins, might stamp out diving and time wasting.

[banana]

On 17/07/2016 at 20:46, parxyz said:

Yellow cards should be 10 minute sin bins, might stamp out diving and time wasting.

And literally make them bins with laws of the game scrawled all over them

[gingapar]

The laws aren't at fault really. We've just come out of a European championships which mostly benefited from officials taking more of a backseat and realising there job is to keep play flowing. Corners are mess because they've tactically evolved into wrestling matches. If players can dribble out, they can also skip straight to the keep it in the corner tactic. Take as long as they can to take it, roll it to themselves then block it off in the corner. Killing the game even more. Game breaking tactics will always evolve to the make the game less of a spectacle in the pursuit of results.

[banana]

The simple and obvious solution to that is to rule that all players bar the defending goalkeeper must be outside of the box before the corner is kicked, like a penalty.

[gingapar]

Which box? And does it not just move the wrestling 6/18 yards up the field?

[banana]

2 hours ago, gingapar said:

Which box? And does it not just move the wrestling 6/18 yards up the field?

The 18 yard box, of course, including the wee arc circle.

Absolute charrrrrrrge rammies every corner, you'd need two keepers on the bench to deal with injuries.

[Shotgun]

Apart from the guy taking the corner and the defending goalkeeper, everyone has to be on the half-way line until the ball is kicked. Then make it so the guy taking the corner has to be the goalkeeper from the attacking team. Fucking brilliant.

[PauloPerth]

Rule changes I'd like to see introduced are a central clock which is linked to the referees watch. (Wirelessly!  ).  The time would be displayed on the scoreboard if there is one.

 football must be the only professional sport where nobody watching knows exactly how long is left. It's bonkers.  How many times do we see over the course of a season coaches complaining about injury time, or saying they don't know where the ref got the extra minutes from..?  If we took the secrecy out of it then a lot of the controversy would disappear,

the other thing I'd introduce is a set number of fouls conceded by a player is a booking.  Bad fouls and all other current infringements would still merit an immediate booking, but some games a ref will book a player who concedes 2 or 3 fouls in a 10 minute spell, whilst on the other hand certain players like Scott Brown will foul every time a player goes past him throughout a game, but there's no punishment.

[expatowner]

If I were trialing something it'd be a line at 30 yards out, with offside only given within it. It'd condense the area for linesmen to cover, which would be easier for them.

Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember that this was once trialled in the seventies for cup games.
I thought it worked, and made the games a bit more exciting.