Tibbermoresaint Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We'll be staying, wotad, don't you worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We'll be staying, wotad, don't you worry about that. Sure you will , and youll keep the pound , you will be a strong member in the EU , get the same benefits the strong UK has.. i think you live in Fairyland land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Maybe you should read my posts.. i speak both Spanish and English but i live in England . Did you leave Spain because of their treatment of gay people? Surely the embedding of human rights in the structures of member states is something positive the EU has done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Where's Fairyland Land? Is it in Castille? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Did you leave Spain because of their treatment of gay people? Surely the embedding of human rights in the structures of member states is something positive the EU has done? Yeah the EU human rights is a amazing thing the EU courts stop us from deporting terrorists and criminals because even those need human rights.. Also Saudi Arabia do worse to gay people yet the west like their terrorist asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 When did PnB become infiltrated by Daily Mail reading types from England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Yeah the EU human rights is a amazing thing the EU courts stop us from deporting terrorists and criminals because event those need human rights.. Also Saudi Arabia do worse to gay people yet the west like their terrorist asses. How dare you speak about an ally of her majesty's government in such a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 When did PnB become infiltrated by Daily Mail reading types from England? since i care about Politics and i like to discuss it with as many people as i can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Everyone has human rights, wotad. Even trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 When did PnB become infiltrated by Daily Mail reading types from England? It didn't. He is some WUM pretending to be a bigotted gay Spaniard for comic effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 How dare you speak about an ally of her majesty's government in such a way. if Saudi Arabia wasn't rich they would be treated as bad as the rest of the middle east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Everyone has human rights, wotad. Even trolls. Sadly i don't think that terrorists and murders,rapists should have the same rights as actual people. It didn't. He is some WUM pretending to be a bigotted gay Spaniard for comic effect. You should really learn what a bigot is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Correct but leaving now will not change that one iota. It will mean controls to immigration to Scotland's detriment and repealing of the human rights act and all other manner of right wing shite. I think the UK leaving will have a massive effect on the EU. f**k knows how it would play out but I doubt that the EU would just carry on as normal. You also suggest that hopelessness is a solid reason for staying. I'm not convinced that a brexit would be good for those who believe in progressive politics - but I know that a remain vote would give the EU a very undeserved pat on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Sadly i don't think that terrorists and murders,rapists should have the same rights as actual people. You should really learn what a bigot is Rapists and murderers are people. That is quite literally a fact. Human rights, by their very definition, belong to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotad Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Rapists and murderers are people. That is quite literally a fact. Human rights, by their very definition, belong to everyone. Well this is my opinion but when you decide to kill another person , or rape someone you should be deported to your home country and punished with or without human rights getting in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Sadly i don't think that terrorists and murders,rapists should have the same rights as actual people. You should really learn what a bigot is I think it's someone who believes some classes of people are more worthy of inalienable human rights than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I wonder how Dee Gas is getting on these days. Miss that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Well this is my opinion but when you decide to kill another person , or rape someone you should be deported to your home country and punished with or without human rights getting in the way. You're allowed an opinion wotad but we're allowed to point out that it's wrong. Human rights are human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 and neither has 'England' and the 'rest of the UK'. Using your logic, If Scotland had to apply to join the EU so will rUK as neither on their own have been part of the EU. Nope. The longstanding precedent in international law of successor statehood would almost certainly see the rUK recognised as being the same legal person in international law as the UK before Scottish secession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I believe you're tone trolling. But, and I'll cherry-pick: Can you make the case for number 3 please. Why the EU would ( on entry / re-entry ) force Scotland to move away from the CTA and into Schengen. I'm not tone trolling because: 1. My remarks relate to substance not tone 2. They aren't trolling I didn't say we wouldn't get an opt-out of Schengen. The question is whether the negotiations would lead to others seeking a quid pro quo. I think we would get an opt out but I suspect we wouldn't get it for free or without making concessions elsewhere. Hence my post said "all of" and not "any of" the relevant privileges attaching to UK membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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