Swello Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 No-one wants to be relegated but seems to have been good for Hearts & Hibs. I'm not sure about Hibs - but I'm sure that getting rid of shysters from the board room and their huge debt has been good for Hearts more than relegation was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 No-one wants to be relegated but seems to have been good for Hearts & Hibs. Will only be good for Hibs if they come back up this season IMO. A 3rd season of lower income from gates, sponsorship, prize money etc won't help them. Though the cup runs will help a bit obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Incidentally a 12 team topflight based on average attendance figures would still have County and Partick Thistle in it. So back to the drawing board on that one, Scottish sporting media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Point of order - we have not been relegated yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Point of order - we have not been relegated yet. Like you know what a point is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 And I don't think commentators are saying Hibs, Rangers, Hearts, United etc deserve/d to be in the top league. They're making the point that these clubs should always be Premiership clubs. Which is true, it takes a serious f**k up from the clubs for them not to be. Definitely a stupid point to make on the grounds of it being fucking obvious but it's surely not something worth getting too concerned about. If not they stop just short of saying so. They still roll out the pish that we 'need' them. Incidentally a 12 team topflight based on average attendance figures would still have County and Partick Thistle in it. So back to the drawing board on that one, Scottish sporting media. Ridiculous. Only very selective history is used when applying the crowd criteria. That's why, despite having larger crowds than us (and more home fans who attend games), we can be considered a 'bigger' club since we used to get large crowds in the 80s and 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Also, Alan Stubbs is a slavering moron of a man. Barely a day goes by without him bleeting about how Scottish football 'needs' his club in the top flight. If they can't beat Rangers to the title, I'll savour their inevitable bottle job in the play-offs. I saw him on SSN saying Hibs were "in the home run" of the league and cups. Football people are funny when they talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I love the hypocracy of these same journos who slaver at the mouth about UEFA's plans to turn European competitions into a elitist invitation only clique thus expelling our "big clubs" from the top table but then (often on the same page) they trot out phrases like "big clubs stuck in the championship". Thing is these guys are too thick (or blinkered / biased) to even see the juxta stance they are adopting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 If not they stop just short of saying so. They still roll out the pish that we 'need' them. Ridiculous. Only very selective history is used when applying the crowd criteria. That's why, despite having larger crowds than us (and more home fans who attend games), we can be considered a 'bigger' club since we used to get large crowds in the 80s and 90s. ^^scrambling for relevance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Apparently Keith Jackson was heard complaining after the cup final that twenty years ago Brian Laudrup was man of the match in the final whereas last season the winner was scored by an ex-Kiddiminster player. Do you not like this Keith? Does it upset you Keith? Are you sad Keith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Ridiculous. Only very selective history is used when applying the crowd criteria. That's why, despite having larger crowds than us (and more home fans who attend games), we can be considered a 'bigger' club since we used to get large crowds in the 80s and 90s. You were losing me at "very selective history", but what do the 80s and 90s have to do with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Quite frankly, it should be a 10 team top league, including this lot until a team in the lower league consistently outperforms one of these in attendances over a five year period. Celtic Rangers Hearts Hibernian Aberdeen Dundee United Dundee Kilmarnock Partick Thistle Motherwell It's the only way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Quite frankly, it should be a 10 team top league, including this lot until a team in the lower league consistently outperforms one of these in attendances over a five year period. Celtic Rangers Hearts Hibernian Aberdeen Dundee United Dundee Kilmarnock Partick Thistle Motherwell It's the only way! You jest of course, but I think there's hacks who genuinely believe this. And Falkirk fans. They love wanking over attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 You jest of course, but I think there's hacks who genuinely believe this. Like the SFA & SPFL most hacks believe in - Premiership Rangers/Celtic Championship Diddy shit. Who gives a f**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Like you know what a point is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityHibs Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Also, Alan Stubbs is a slavering moron of a man. Barely a day goes by without him bleeting about how Scottish football 'needs' his club in the top flight. If they can't beat Rangers to the title, I'll savour their inevitable bottle job in the play-offs. What a load of shite ???? Provide links to these bleating statements ....Stubbs has been misquoted about a few things this season in the press..but this post reeks of green eyed monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 We are a Premiership size side with Premiership players and have pumped a host of top flight sides. We have no define right to play in the top league until we secure promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Football is about performances. If you don't do it on the pitch you get relegated and rightly so. It doesn't matter if that's a result of board decisions, managerial ineptitude or shite player performances or a combination of all three. In terms of crowds, and therefore income, United is the sixth biggest team in Scotland but we don't deserve any pity or any special treatment. We deserve to be where we are. I'd like to think that we will get back up in one or two seasons but I certainly won't make any predictions to that effect. The 'smaller' Premiership clubs like ICT, Ross County, Hamilton, Partick and St Johnstone deserve enormous credit for what they have achieved. They are where they are on merit and good luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 The media have only shown interest in the Championship because the Zombies are there. As soon as the Tribute Act get promoted the only coverage you'll get will be the play-off final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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