SANTAN Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I read about that in the LRB. I guess you have to factor in that Cameron might've been making it up but if it's true then it just highlights how utterly out of his depth that Clegg was. Aye I'm open to the fact it's not true, the programme framed it humorously though because they had Osbourne claim it then showed Nick Clegg saying that's not what happened and he may have muttered something then it cuts to Cameron directly quoting him. It was quite interesting to hear Clegg almost double down and support the policy even now, they also have Hague taking credit for convincing them to join a coalition in the first place giving off the implication he was aware this would ruin any chances they had in future elections. I was only 17/18 at the time so didn't fully appreciate how much of a short sighted power grab it seemed to be from the top boys at the Lib Dems, I'm pretty sure I voted for them at the time because Michael Moore was a good local MP too. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 A rare victory for the little guy with the UK ruling on Uber? (blatantly their drivers employees under the badges of trade i guess rather than WWE style """independent contractors""') 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 hours ago, Stormzy said: Also I admired his lack of remorse over I think that's just a congenital defect common amongst his social class rather than a position of principle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: A rare victory for the little guy with the UK ruling on Uber? (blatantly their drivers employees under the badges of trade i guess rather than WWE style """independent contractors""') Seen their press release talking about how proud they were about this? Like they didn't fight tooth and nail to prevent it. f**k Uber. 12 hours ago, Stormzy said: Aye I'm open to the fact it's not true, the programme framed it humorously though because they had Osbourne claim it then showed Nick Clegg saying that's not what happened and he may have muttered something then it cuts to Cameron directly quoting him. It was quite interesting to hear Clegg almost double down and support the policy even now, they also have Hague taking credit for convincing them to join a coalition in the first place giving off the implication he was aware this would ruin any chances they had in future elections. I was only 17/18 at the time so didn't fully appreciate how much of a short sighted power grab it seemed to be from the top boys at the Lib Dems, I'm pretty sure I voted for them at the time because Michael Moore was a good local MP too. I definitely bought into Cleggmania because I was 18 and a moron. I still remember on here that people were insisting the Tories mathematically couldn't win a majority and there was a perception that they couldn't govern on their own. Cameron did look a bit surprised to get a majority in 2015. I still think the EU ref was put in there with the hope that they would be blocked by coalition partners. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I definitely bought into Cleggmania because I was 18 and a moron. I still remember on here that people were insisting the Tories mathematically couldn't win a majority and there was a perception that they couldn't govern on their own. Cameron did look a bit surprised to get a majority in 2015. I still think the EU ref was put in there with the hope that they would be blocked by coalition partners. The change in the electorate since 2010 and even 2015 is all down to the Tory/Right winning the culture war in an absolute rout. They obviously have every advantage but a lot of people are in denial about what they have achieved and can potentially achieve going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Seen their press release talking about how proud they were about this? Like they didn't fight tooth and nail to prevent it. f**k Uber. I definitely bought into Cleggmania because I was 18 and a moron. I still remember on here that people were insisting the Tories mathematically couldn't win a majority and there was a perception that they couldn't govern on their own. Cameron did look a bit surprised to get a majority in 2015. I still think the EU ref was put in there with the hope that they would be blocked by coalition partners. Of course this could all be said in hindsight to make himself sound better but Cameron said he knew when he took over the swing would be so big he didn't really expect to get a majority in that next term anyway. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 f**k UberQuite. I'm not sure if anything can be done to stop it, but it really doesn't sit right with me that a company can come in with vast amounts of venture capital, prepared to lose hundreds of millions a year so they can undercut existing operators and put them out of business in order to gain a monopoly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Quite. I'm not sure if anything can be done to stop it, but it really doesn't sit right with me that a company can come in with vast amounts of venture capital, prepared to lose hundreds of millions a year so they can undercut existing operators and put them out of business in order to gain a monopoly. That’s what Amazon did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 10 hours ago, NotThePars said: Seen their press release talking about how proud they were about this? Like they didn't fight tooth and nail to prevent it. f**k Uber. I definitely bought into Cleggmania because I was 18 and a moron. I still remember on here that people were insisting the Tories mathematically couldn't win a majority and there was a perception that they couldn't govern on their own. Cameron did look a bit surprised to get a majority in 2015. I still think the EU ref was put in there with the hope that they would be blocked by coalition partners. i think so yeah it was really weird watching them big up how amazing the perks their uber drivers will get now for pensions, holiday pay etc. especially seeing how recently they just pumped money fighting to keep their drivers on as self employed contractors in the states 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: i think so yeah it was really weird watching them big up how amazing the perks their uber drivers will get now for pensions, holiday pay etc. especially seeing how recently they just pumped money fighting to keep their drivers on as self employed contractors in the states i suspect they'll try some bullshit nonsense to keep costs down. Such as only counting time actually on a job as working time and not counting the in-between periods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Uber exists mainly because of the luddite attitude of the black cab and private hire industries had towards card payments and technology. Bloody handy when abroad as well - book in your own language and not have to worry about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 One of Godley's better ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 The free and liberal UK! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just watching last nights Question Time.. The SNP minister getting tag teamed by Jess Phillip's and Ian Hislop is not something I ever expected to see. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Must have sent a chill down a few spines to find out that Normo Tebbs could easily have tracked them down and consumed their soul. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just watching last nights Question Time.. The SNP minister getting tag teamed by Jess Phillip's and Ian Hislop is not something I ever expected to see. Jess Phillips really is one of the most unprincipled politicians I have ever had the misfortune to meet. She'd sell her as soul to the devil to get elected.Hislop is just a smug sexist public schoolboy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Jess Phillips really is one of the most unprincipled politicians I have ever had the misfortune to meet. She'd sell her as soul to the devil to get elected. Hislop is just a smug sexist public schoolboy. I can't disagree with any of that. Was amusing viewing none the less. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 We'll always have Phillips's disastrous leadership run. She's literally the most Brentian politician in Britain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Jess Phillips really is one of the most unprincipled politicians I have ever had the misfortune to meet. She'd sell her as soul to the devil to get elected.Hislop is just a smug sexist public schoolboy. This.Phillips is a horrible human being, "working hard for my working class constituents - people like me", while socialising with Rees-fucking-Mogg. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Jess Phillips really is one of the most unprincipled politicians I have ever had the misfortune to meet. She'd sell her as soul to the devil to get elected. Hislop is just a smug sexist public schoolboy. This.Phillips is a horrible human being, "working hard for my working class constituents - people like me", while socialising with Rees-fucking-Mogg. She’s a mouthy, vacuous bint who gets far more publicity than she deserves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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