Ira Gaines Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 They get away with it because 1) people are idiots and 2) most of the mainstream media completely support it, and not enough people care about their lying. These people know what they're doing, and know that, for every person who knows it's a lie, there will be about another four or five who don't even bother to check, and they know that people won't bother challenging it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Kirstene Hair has to be a candidate for the worst MP of all time. In this case I genuinely believe that she isn't lying deliberately - although she never does the decent thing and retracts her comments when the myriad of factual inaccuracies are pointed out - she just genuinely doesn’t understand how basic aspects of governance like taxation work, or the most simple principles of devolution such as the difference between devolved and reserved powers. Not sure if being too thick to understand basic aspects of politics is a better look for an elected member of Parliament than understanding it but lying about it right enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Boris Johnson won’t be apologising for insulting Muslims in his article. Classic BoJo! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Boris Johnson won’t be apologising for insulting Muslims in his article. Classic BoJo!Haha! What’s he like? We could do with a man like him as PM, rather than the anti-Semite Corbyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) Sky accusing Johnson of “alleged Islamophobia”. No use of the word alleged when discussing Corbyn, though Sky manages to mention the Corbyn issue in their report on Johnson. Fucking disgusting bias. Edited August 7, 2018 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Labour are antisemitic so we should be Islamophobic is some next level thinking from Boris Johnson. Those comments should be enough to ensure he never plays a major role in politics again, sadly it probably won't be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: Labour are antisemitic so we should be Islamophobic is some next level thinking from Boris Johnson. Those comments should be enough to ensure he never plays a major role in politics again, sadly it probably won't be. Would you prefer him or Corbyn as next PM? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 He is clearly auditioning for a Tory leadership contest. He could probably win based solely on the votes of Telegraph reading racists if he gets through to the final members run off. The Tory establishment were genuinely terrified that their members would make Andrea Leadsom Prime Minister. They obviously know that they are a party of crackpots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 As much as I dislike Boris and think he's a fucking idiot, I cant say I disagree with his comments about Muslim women being forced to wear clothing to protect their modesty when the men do not. Unless, of course, it's the women's choice to dress like a Ninja. Personally I don't believe that all of them do and think that anyone should have the right to mock their religion and it's stupid interpretations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Suspect Device said: As much as I dislike Boris and think he's a fucking idiot, I cant say I disagree with his comments about Muslim women being forced to wear clothing to protect their modesty when the men do not. Unless, of course, it's the women's choice to dress like a Ninja. Personally I don't believe that all of them do and think that anyone should have the right to mock their religion and it's stupid interpretations. Being critical of Islam or any other religion is OK as is the criticism of any religions’ subjection of women. The issue here is the intended effect of his remarks. If you cannot see the issue at play here maybe you should try harder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: As much as I dislike Boris and think he's a fucking idiot, I cant say I disagree with his comments about Muslim women being forced to wear clothing to protect their modesty when the men do not. Unless, of course, it's the women's choice to dress like a Ninja. Personally I don't believe that all of them do and think that anyone should have the right to mock their religion and it's stupid interpretations. I've often wondered why there are so many degrees involved in muslim women covering themselves up. Do those who go the full hog, covering everything but their eyes, do so because they are very ugly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I've often wondered why there are so many degrees involved in muslim women covering themselves up. Do those who go the full hog, covering everything but their eyes, do so because they are very ugly? There is a lass who gets on my bus home occasionally and she has absolutely stunning eyes. That is all you can see of her though. So I'd agree that it's ridiculous. Or maybe I'm making a bid for the leader of the Tory party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just now, Suspect Device said: There is a lass who gets on my bus home occasionally and she has absolutely stunning eyes. That is all you can see of her though. So I'd agree that it's ridiculous. Or maybe I'm making a bid for the leader of the Tory party. I would vote for you ahead of Boris, SD. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I would vote for you ahead of Boris, SD. Not sure that's much of a compliment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Boris' dislike of the burka is probably genuine. Not because he gives a damn about the rights of Muslim women, but because he dreams of a world where women of all creeds and colours are free to strut around in bikinis for his pleasure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I've often wondered why there are so many degrees involved in muslim women covering themselves up. Do those who go the full hog, covering everything but their eyes, do so because they are very ugly? There are varying degrees of modesty expected in various western cultures too. It’s just the bar for looking like a slapper is generally set a good deal higher than not wearing a headscarf. Except in parts of Utah 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) Do Jews vote Tory and Muslims vote Labour? http://www.brin.ac.uk/2017/religious-affiliation-and-party-choice-at-the-2017-general-election/ Quote Muslims voted overwhelmingly for Labour, with 85% having preferred for Jeremy Corbyn’s party, and 11% supported the Conservatives. Edited August 7, 2018 by Suspect Device 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Aaron Bastani going full Stephen Daisley, there. Never go full Stephen Daisley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Do Jews vote Tory and Muslims vote Labour?http://www.brin.ac.uk/2017/religious-affiliation-and-party-choice-at-the-2017-general-election/ Muslims voted overwhelmingly for Labour, with 85% having preferred for Jeremy Corbyn’s party, and 11% supported the Conservatives. Apparently so but ...Jews tend to live in more prosperous constituencies than Muslims so it’s important to distinguish between correlation and causality 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 The only race BoJo has not insulted seems to be the London Marathon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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