John Lambies Doos Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Literally could not give less of a shit over how statesmanlike someone comes across. The press give way too much leeway to people like Thatcher, Blair and Obama who oversaw quite abhorrent policies purely because they were viewed as credible heads of state or leaders. Utter bollocks. This 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: I believe the 8th amendment will be repealed by popular vote end May It will be interesting to see if it's repealed or amended. The ROI has made massive strides forward in social policy in recent years and I hope it will continue on this issue. The influence of the Catholic Church is still pernicious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: I strongly believe this yet we are shackled to a bigger country who is pulling us out of EU against our democratic will. Scotland the Brave, embarrassing Aye that's pish. Though tbf with the level of utter propaganda rammed down our throats for years and the hysterica of that campaign, I'm still quite proud that most scots didn't swallow it and voted yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Aye that's pish. Though tbf with the level of utter propaganda rammed down our throats for years and the hysterica of that campaign, I'm still quite proud that most scots didn't swallow it and voted yes. Yes 53% and rising 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, John Lambies Doos said: Yes 53% and rising Yeah so I try not to be too scathing, it was only bigots, gullible old people, EU citizens and Ruk people who voted no really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Yeah so I try not to be too scathing, it was only bigots, gullible old people, EU citizens and Ruk people who voted no really. We could probably rely on the EU votes now.. Matter of time really 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said: We could probably rely on the EU votes now.. Matter of time really Yeah but the UK government is going to try to stop them voting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Michael "Lord" Levy on CNN saying that if you oppose the state of Israel then you are an anti-Semite. Where will the front page spreads be decrying this appalling statement by an unaccountable member of the U.K. legislature? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Michael "Lord" Levy on CNN saying that if you oppose the state of Israel then you are an anti-Semite. Where will the front page spreads be decrying this appalling statement by an unaccountable member of the U.K. legislature? Israel are today's Nazis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Michael "Lord" Levy on CNN saying that if you oppose the state of Israel then you are an anti-Semite. Where will the front page spreads be decrying this appalling statement by an unaccountable member of the U.K. legislature? At least he is consistent, albeit consistently wrong. This is an article from 2016 where he states basically the same thing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36160928 Quote The Labour peer Lord Levy told the BBC's Newsnight: "There can be criticism of the state of Israel, but anti-Semitism - using the word 'Zionist' as another form of anti-Semitism - frankly can no longer be tolerated." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: It will be interesting to see if it's repealed or amended. The ROI has made massive strides forward in social policy in recent years and I hope it will continue on this issue. The influence of the Catholic Church is still pernicious. It hasn't a lot of influence as far as I can see - people still go to mass, more for the social aspect and/or out of habit rather than to listen to what way the hierarchy want them to vote. There have been unrelenting scandals regarding clerical sex abuse, mother and baby homes etc which have totally destroyed their hold over the population. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: As an aside, I was chatting with some folk about the lack of proper statesmen-like politicians across the board. 20 years ago, all the major parties had a few that you could reasonably say you could trust to run the country, regardless of whether you agreed with their politics. Which of the current mob could you honestly describe in the same way? No they didn't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/02/stop-jeremy-corbyns-trial-by-media-over-antisemitism “Stop Jeremy Corbyn’s trial by media over Antisemitism”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, Granny Danger said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/02/stop-jeremy-corbyns-trial-by-media-over-antisemitism “Stop Jeremy Corbyn’s trial by media over Antisemitism”. Nah f**k him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Corbyn allegedly meeting the wrong kind of Jews today. Definitely a good look for non-Jewish critics. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 The only people that like Corbyn are the Red / Blue Tories. Get him in the bin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Michael "Lord" Levy on CNN saying that if you oppose the state of Israel then you are an anti-Semite. Where will the front page spreads be decrying this appalling statement by an unaccountable member of the U.K. legislature? It's a consequence of the gradual shift to the right in the overall make-up in UK politics.....and some would say, in society in UK in general. These insiduous campaigns to stifle debate by decrying anyone who disagrees with this right-wing takeover as an extremist, are growing in number. I've no time for Corbyn. I blame him for the shambles of Brexit as much as I blame Johnston and the rest of them, but I feel that this right-wing character assasination......firstly over Russia, now over 'anti-semitism'.....is a dangerous vision into the UK of the future. Is this how things will be ? Trial by the right-wing press, and complicite silence from the Tories who are hostages to the fanatics within their own ranks ? It seems so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 England is broken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob Mahelp said: It's a consequence of the gradual shift to the right in the overall make-up in UK politics.....and some would say, in society in UK in general. These insiduous campaigns to stifle debate by decrying anyone who disagrees with this right-wing takeover as an extremist, are growing in number. I've no time for Corbyn. I blame him for the shambles of Brexit as much as I blame Johnston and the rest of them, but I feel that this right-wing character assasination......firstly over Russia, now over 'anti-semitism'.....is a dangerous vision into the UK of the future. Is this how things will be ? Trial by the right-wing press, and complicite silence from the Tories who are hostages to the fanatics within their own ranks ? It seems so. Yeah I have no love for Corbyn either but it is an attack on anyone who is seen as challenging the establishment and that’s why anyone interested in progressive politics should be concerned. Folk need to recall Niemoller’s words and logic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I reckon this will now start to help corbyn. Most folk can see this as what it is and even those who don't like him could end up supporting him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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