Guest Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: I agree strongly with large parts of this post but disagree totally with others. This is definitely a campaign against the first genuinely left-of-centre Labour leader who has a reasonable chance of winning an election. I'm glad, that's healthy and is what debate should be all about. Life would be very boring if we all agreed with each other. Unfortunately that seems to be lost on many nowadays, as it's apparently "my view or no view" so far as some are concerned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I agree strongly with large parts of this post but disagree totally with others. This is definitely a campaign against the first genuinely left-of-centre Labour leader who has a reasonable chance of winning an election. Realistically he has no chance of winning an election outright. With the SNP and others it's possible. And I totally agree it's very obviously true labour are the victim of a smear campaign in the media from the right wing press which the bellend centrists like Berwick the britnat and jmo the weapon are jumping all over predictably, being used by the right wing media cause they're so fkn gullible and pliable. However, I don't give the slightest f**k. After labours behaviour in indyref2 and since towards Scottish nationalists they can fkn rim me for the rest of time. What goes around comes around, and it's a tiny fraction of what we had to and still have to put up with. Fk them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Realistically he has no chance of winning an election outright. With the SNP and others it's possible. And I totally agree it's very obviously true labour are the victim of a smear campaign in the media from the right wing press which the bellend centrists like Berwick the britnat and jmo the weapon are jumping all over predictably, being used by the right wing media cause they're so fkn gullible and pliable. However, I don't give the slightest f**k. After labours behaviour in indyref2 and since towards Scottish nationalists they can fkn rim me for the rest of time. What goes around comes around, and it's a tiny fraction of what we had to and still have to put up with. Fk them. You should give a f**k. U.K. politics will impact upon when we can and will have a further Independence referendum. A totally dominant Tory Party is not the best scenario for that IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Definitely no smear campaign, no siree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: You should give a f**k. U.K. politics will impact upon when we can and will have a further Independence referendum. A totally dominant Tory Party is not the best scenario for that IMO. We already have a mandate to have one in this parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Zetterlund said: Definitely no smear campaign, no siree. A blatant smear campaign. Let me check how many fucks I give............. none at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Enough fucks to keep stinking out the thread though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, mjw said: Enough fucks to keep stinking out the thread though. Apparently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Definitely no smear campaign, no siree. Meghan Markle can f**k off tbh. I'm a bit more concerned about my shite pension and future job prospects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Definitely no smear campaign, no siree. Has The Sunday Times gone full Daily Mail? That front page has almost filled up my bingo card. I'm waiting on 'Benefits' and 'Immigrant' for a full house, FYI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 World democracy index 2017. Any surprises? I haven't looked into how this is calculated, but I thought it was interesting given recent events that Spain appears to be one of the more democratic nations in Europe. Also I wonder what makes Ireland more democratic than the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 World democracy index 2017. Any surprises? I haven't looked into how this is calculated, but I thought it was interesting given recent events that Spain appears to be one of the more democratic nations in Europe. Also I wonder what makes Ireland more democratic than the UK. PR mate... Answer to your last question 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Also I wonder what makes Ireland more democratic than the UK? Houses of Lords and Lizzie? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: World democracy index 2017. Any surprises? I haven't looked into how this is calculated, but I thought it was interesting given recent events that Spain appears to be one of the more democratic nations in Europe. Also I wonder what makes Ireland more democratic than the UK. Here's the reasoning hopefully. If if doesn't work I'll sort it later. http://www.eiu.com/Handlers/WhitepaperHandler.ashx?fi=Democracy_Index_2017.pdf&mode=wp&campaignid=DemocracyIndex2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 It says it's based on 60 indicators, but maybe just generally being an utter circus show of incompetence relegates you to the next shade down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 "Oh look - there's Jeremy Corbyn. Looks like he forgot to comb his hair today." "Oh there you go again. Colluding with the right-wing press against the first true socialist leader the Labour Party has ever known. Someone who is prepared to make the fundamental changes this country so desperately needs - but that is not good enough for you, I guess. I suppose you prefer a leader who wants to engage in illegal wars, be a complete poodle to the American President and not really do anything here that makes any real difference for the people who need it most." "Actually no. I was going to ask him if he wanted to borrow my comb." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Zetterlund said: World democracy index 2017. Any surprises? I haven't looked into how this is calculated, but I thought it was interesting given recent events that Spain appears to be one of the more democratic nations in Europe. Also I wonder what makes Ireland more democratic than the UK. House of lords and monarchy. Ireland is clearly more democratic than the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-43611527 The number of children in poverty in the UK increased by 100,000 in the last year. What a mess yet the Tories are still the most popular party in the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 14 hours ago, Zetterlund said: World democracy index 2017. Any surprises? I haven't looked into how this is calculated, but I thought it was interesting given recent events that Spain appears to be one of the more democratic nations in Europe. Also I wonder what makes Ireland more democratic than the UK. The House of Lords, the Monarchy, Proportional Representation in Ireland, the astonishing political influence a bunch of unelected newspaper owners have and the amount of news coverage that somebody like Nigel Farage gets even when his party has no MPs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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