welshbairn Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I'm surprised by the complete lack of balance in terms of looking into what our security forces get up to (or what this guy did to make himself a target). Obviously a crucial element of these kinds of attacks is keeping it all hush hush - but other than that there's an awful lot of 'won't someone think of the children' responses from our politicians and media. I'm sorry but if you're a fucking double agent then this shit comes with the job. I'd say we're entitled to be a bit miffed about Russian agents (if it was them) coming over here and assassinating a spy for whom we'd exchanged a few of theirs, and his daughter, never mind putting bystanders at risk with an internationally banned weapon, even in war. Our traitors are usually allowed to die in the Moscow suburbs from alcoholism and pining for cricket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I'd say we're entitled to be a bit miffed about Russian agents (if it was them) coming over here and assassinating a spy for whom we'd exchanged a few of theirs, and his daughter, never mind putting bystanders at risk with an internationally banned weapon, even in war. Our traitors are usually allowed to die in the Moscow suburbs from alcoholism and pining for cricket. I think we should be a bit miffed as well. I don't think it should take over the entire news cycle and lead to unbelievable rhetoric and bombast by arseholes like Boris. This is a serious issue but it's being way overblown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: I think we should be a bit miffed as well. I don't think it should take over the entire news cycle and lead to unbelievable rhetoric and bombast by arseholes like Boris. This is a serious issue but it's being way overblown. Treeza’s Falklands, what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 It is obviously a serious issue but some of our glorious leaders are embarrassing themselves, and us, with their behaviour. Boris and Gavin Williamson in particular. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I think we should be a bit miffed as well. I don't think it should take over the entire news cycle and lead to unbelievable rhetoric and bombast by arseholes like Boris. This is a serious issue but it's being way overblown. That Labour MP banging on about the sanctity of our security forces is a grade a weapon. It’ll be great when he books his ticket on the deselection express. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 That Labour MP banging on about the sanctity of our security forces is a grade a weapon. It’ll be great when he books his ticket on the deselection express.It's ridiculous. The BBC are on a feeding frenzy, and a monster is growing from it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43448155 Racism and Islamophobia 'getting worse in Scotland'. Dempster should have known better. It's OK to throw out the most vile of insults and lies about terrible politicians but absolutely do not mention stereotypes about their race. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, pandarilla said: I think we should be a bit miffed as well. I don't think it should take over the entire news cycle and lead to unbelievable rhetoric and bombast by arseholes like Boris. This is a serious issue but it's being way overblown. If the UK narrative is true, what would been a better way of handling it? Diplomats/spies passing each other in Moscow or London as they're being deported isn't going to do much. Should the Government just have pretended it didn't happen? Edited March 18, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Good to see two prominent Scottish Muslim politicians highlighting the issue. Absolutely disgusting comment by Dempster. He should be chucked out of the party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Cerberus said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43448155 Racism and Islamophobia 'getting worse in Scotland'. Dempster should have known better. It's OK to throw out the most vile of insults and lies about terrible politicians but absolutely do not mention stereotypes about their race. Are you pished or have you gone native in alt-right land? Quote In his report, the official said Mr Dempster had been "stating his opinion" that Mr Yousaf "did not give much regard to road transport issues in the south west" and had been "largely anonymous in his presence". The official said he had told Mr Dempster that Mr Yousaf attended the South West Transport Conference and had met residents in the village of Springholm. He said Mr Dempster responded by saying: "He may have been at Springholm but no-one would have seen him under his burka." Edited March 18, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I’m neither right or left. I’m a centrist. Both sides have some decent points of view and some awful ones.Call me cynical but Dempster was only fired because he was caught being racist. He wasn’t fired for being a racist.He should have stuck to the party line and called Alex Salmond’s wife fat and barren and kept the racist slurs to his own house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 The remarks were stupid and shocking and he should have known better. He will hopefully be disciplined for them. I am a wee bit concerned that there is a wider view that Islamaphobia and racism are the same thing; they are not. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 But teh Alec Sammond! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 But teh Alec Sammond! What's that got to do with Alex Salmond? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Jmothecat2 said: What's that got to do with Alex Salmond? Have you not been paying attention? He's an agent of the kremlin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Private Eye nails it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Have you not been paying attention? He's an agent of the kremlin. How is his involvement with RT relevant to Rees-Mogg? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Jmothecat2 said: How is his involvement with RT relevant to Rees-Mogg? It isn't, it's what they're trying to get us to focus on instead of Rees-Mogg, BoJo and Ruth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It isn't, it's what they're trying to get us to focus on instead of Rees-Mogg, BoJo and Ruth. Who is? Can't you condemn both? (If the Rees-Mogg thing is true) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Jmothecat2 said: Who is? Can't you condemn both? (If the Rees-Mogg thing is true) It's true but there's nothing to condemn Salmond for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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