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12 hours ago, Loondave1 said:


Cooper died on live TV with the audience laughing at his hilarious "collapsing on stage" routine.Think it was the death rattle before anyone sussed it.

Remember watching it live on telly. They dropped the curtain and you could still see his legs twitching before they cut the signal.

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29 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

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Glad we’ve our best men on the case.

He's right. They should shut up until they give us £30,000 to dine with some Tory MPs.

 

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41 minutes ago, RiG said:

He's right. They should shut up until they give us £30,000 to dine with some Tory MPs.

 

I'm not sure "Putin's Crony" is really correct any more. "Former Putin crony" would probably make more sense with Chernukhin.

He's currently being sued by Deripaska who is very close to Putin (less so than Leviev or Abramovich), although their relationship has been strained at times, and is being helped in the lawsuit by former head of MI6.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-winter-crisis-deaths-patients-flu-cancelled-operations-bmj-oxford-a8256401.html

Government told to 'urgently investigate 10,000 additional deaths' in the first weeks of 2018

'Case for an investigation gets both stronger and more urgent with each passing day'

Sturgeon must....oh.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/15/uks-claims-questioned-doubts-emerge-about-source-of-salisburys-novichok

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/

So... mebbe not actually the work of 'the Russian state' then. What has struck me about the week's frothing is the way in which the British Government and its assorted fluffers have insisted on the 'Russian' development line. But any chemical weapons program was began and operated in the Soviet Union: a much larger, multinational state. They've bizarrely drawn a straight line between their anachronistic view of 'Russia' in the 1970s with Russia today - but as anyone with any knowledge of the breakup of the USSR or the 'Wild East' of the 1990s would know, even Soviet defence infrastructure was open to corruption, smuggling and didn't all remain under the Russian Federation's nominal control. Even the fucking Ukraine emerged with a huge military arsenal from the break-up.

'Russian provenance' is nowhere near as solid a claim as has been widely assumed so far.

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I assume they're basing their conclusions on more than just the chemical itself, being as the guy who invented it published details of it in a Moscow newspaper before he defected to America. Even Wiki provide a pretty detailed description of it. I can't think of why anyone else but the Russians would carry it out though, maybe even by someone acting on his own who thought it would please Putin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent

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That's an 'assumption' that doesn't account for the UK government's own credibility gap. Who exactly is making such claims at the moment? Boris Johnson and Gavin Williamson? Aye no bother - let's just assume that they know what they're talking about for the first time in their entire, blowhard ministerial careers and demolish remaining ties with a major power as a result. 

Samples should have been given to the OPCW prior to any response being taken by the UK, which would lend the necessary international consensus to support the UK Government's right to respond against the Russian state. But May is too weak to resist a slaughtering in the press, so we have a flurry of 'ultimatums' and back of a fag packet declarations of support by NATO allies instead. 

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Even Craig Murray accepts that Moscow was responsible for the plutonium murder. The same people are still in charge of the Russian State. I don't see why he's so convinced of their innocence this time around. 

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15 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Even Craig Murray accepts that Moscow was responsible for the plutonium murder. The same people are still in charge of the Russian State. I don't see why he's so convinced of their innocence this time around. 

Suppose that's right, every case is identical after all.  

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