TxRover Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 59 minutes ago, welshbairn said: George Dubya would still be top of everyone's worst ever President list if it wasn't for Trump, that shocking comparison is the only thing that's rehabilitated him. His Dad was way better. He is damn near on top on the in office list anyway, Iraq saw to that. But the remarkable thing is what he’s become since then, he’s staying quiet, advising moderation to the Republican party quietly and in opposition to many of the current leading lights. He actually gets interviewed now and then, and he’s nice things to say about Obama and Biden, and nothing good to say about Trump, whom he believes is leading the R’s off the cliff. It’s a strange place when I can say he isn’t that bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 7 hours ago, welshbairn said: George Dubya would still be top of everyone's worst ever President list if it wasn't for Trump, that shocking comparison is the only thing that's rehabilitated him. His Dad was way better. I found it quite funny to discover that, back in the Sixties, the Republicans considered Bush Sr. to be something of an idiot. Supposedly Reagan mocked him openly. Presumably that's why they stood him next to Dan Quayle for four years. Pretty decent of Junior to cover for his old man by impersonating a confused chimp in office. I think Dubya's still popular in some Republican circles because, like Boris with Brexit, he got 9/11 done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 12 hours ago, TxRover said: He is damn near on top on the in office list anyway, Iraq saw to that. But the remarkable thing is what he’s become since then, he’s staying quiet, advising moderation to the Republican party quietly and in opposition to many of the current leading lights. He actually gets interviewed now and then, and he’s nice things to say about Obama and Biden, and nothing good to say about Trump, whom he believes is leading the R’s off the cliff. It’s a strange place when I can say he isn’t that bad. Saying good things about Obama and Biden and nothing good about trump is enough to make up for Iraq for some people. Fucking hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: Saying good things about Obama and Biden and nothing good about trump is enough to make up for Iraq for some people. Fucking hell. It’s far from the only thing, but it shows that there are still some moderates in the Republican Party, something that perhaps shows a wee bit of hope for the future. But this is digressing into a specific politics thread, so if you want to discuss this, we’ll take it elsewhere, perhaps an Iraq thread to revive…not! 6 hours ago, BFTD said: I found it quite funny to discover that, back in the Sixties, the Republicans considered Bush Sr. to be something of an idiot. Supposedly Reagan mocked him openly. Presumably that's why they stood him next to Dan Quayle for four years. Pretty decent of Junior to cover for his old man by impersonating a confused chimp in office. I think Dubya's still popular in some Republican circles because, like Boris with Brexit, he got 9/11 done. The senior shrub was always a good pair of hands for the R’s. You need an Office rehabilitated, you put someone like GHWB in there…like the CIA post Watergate. Of course, compared to Ronnie, he was a mental genius. Dubya’s quite out of favor with the modern R’s, a point in his favor, but, again, that’s a discussion for elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Bush Snr is a seriously shady character like his old man Prescott. Dubya was a moron influenced by his dad's pals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I still think back to the 2000 election. What might have been had Gore not been done in by the hanging chads. Bush started out as a bit dumb. He was barely in the job before 9/11 happened and that was it. He was a war president. I reckon the same would have happened to Gore had he been in the hot seat at the time. We never really got to see how he would have unfolded without 9/11. I reckon he would have lost in 2004 and lost badly, but the rallying around the flag factor was still there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) The only thing Bush jr could have done to even slightly rehabilitate his image would be to hand himself over to be prosecuted like he fucking deserves. Instead he’s made it so no American will face justice for Iraq and Afghanistan, so I’m afraid saying good things about two awful presidents (obviously not at his level of awfulness) doesn’t cut it. Edited February 20, 2023 by MazzyStar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 16 hours ago, 101 said: Wasn't he massively involved in the expenses scandal? Well, I found this on his Wikipedia page. I'm sure it's in the "nothing to see here, move along now, don't look over here, look over there" category... "During the 2009 MP expenses scandal, Alexander was one of three Labour ministers who "quietly repaid more £50,000 in expenses". It emerged he had repaid more than £12,000 that he had previously claimed in expenses on his taxpayer funded second home while also receiving income from a tenant at the same second home." Tut tut, if true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Well, I found this on his Wikipedia page. I'm sure it's in the "nothing to see here, move along now, don't look over here, look over there" category... "During the 2009 MP expenses scandal, Alexander was one of three Labour ministers who "quietly repaid more £50,000 in expenses". It emerged he had repaid more than £12,000 that he had previously claimed in expenses on his taxpayer funded second home while also receiving income from a tenant at the same second home." Tut tut, if true. It's a bit crap they can break the rules, if not the law, and just repay what they incorrectly claimed (potentially stole) penalty free. Can't think of many other jobs that would be so understanding especially when it's not the companies money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The mass-murdering Governor of Texas and war criminal being identified as a moderate Republican' is some laugh. Another failure of the education system over there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, 101 said: It's a bit crap they can break the rules, if not the law, and just repay what they incorrectly claimed (potentially stole) penalty free. Can't think of many other jobs that would be so understanding especially when it's not the companies money. It'll probably have been viewed under the general "get out of jail free card" situation so beloved by the great and the good at Westminster... that good old 'the rules were unclear' excuse or some such BS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: It'll probably have been viewed under the general "get out of jail free card" situation so beloved by the great and the good at Westminster... that good old 'the rules were unclear' excuse or some such BS. Lessons have been learned and processes have been put in place to prevent this happening again so we should just draw a line under this and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Incompetent Jocks... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) On 20/02/2023 at 19:48, jakedee said: Incompetent Jocks... Or very competent saboteurs. Edited February 22, 2023 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Incompetent journo Freddie Webb. A fault with the propellor shafts were discovered? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Comes across as an angry wee British foot soldier. I reckon theirs a fault with his own shaft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 That Green PPB..."eat the rich" "I don't think you can say that Gray". Who signed off on that dugshite of a production? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Saw this tweet thinking it must be a fake, but seemingly not. The signature says Father John. https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/03/13/native-american-child-adoption-letter/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Lee Anderson making a c**t of himself again today but very much in a "would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous" kind of way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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