Florentine_Pogen Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Pretty sure Mogg did something similar recently. The c***s ooze contempt. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, coprolite said: This really annoyed the shit out of me. I didn't know what an "Oxford comma" was so registered with the independent so i could find out. Their incredibly buggy website kept scrolling back to the top and playing videos and by the time i got to the bottom of the article there was still no useful definition. There was a definition but it was shit. Anyway, i suspect that this woman has made the same mistake i did when i first heard of Liz Truss and has got her confused with Lynne Truss, who would absolutely be impressed by this insistence on grammatical propriety, and is misguidedly sucking up to the boss. It's the final comma that is sometimes used in a list. For example "oranges, lemons, and limes". The Oxford comma is the one before 'and'. It's not strictly necessary, and apparently there is a lot of debate within scholarly circles about whether it should be used or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: It's the final comma that is sometimes used in a list. For example "oranges, lemons, and limes". The Oxford comma is the one before 'and'. It's not strictly necessary and apparently there is a lot of debate within scholarly circles about whether it should be used or not. FTFY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, coprolite said: This really annoyed the shit out of me. I didn't know what an "Oxford comma" was so registered with the independent so i could find out. Their incredibly buggy website kept scrolling back to the top and playing videos and by the time i got to the bottom of the article there was still no useful definition. There was a definition but it was shit. Anyway, i suspect that this woman has made the same mistake i did when i first heard of Liz Truss and has got her confused with Lynne Truss, who would absolutely be impressed by this insistence on grammatical propriety, and is misguidedly sucking up to the boss. I did include an Oxford comma in my post. A list of stuff with the comma before the and. I never knew what the f**k it was until I heard that song and looked it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 55 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: It's the final comma that is sometimes used in a list. For example "oranges, lemons, and limes". The Oxford comma is the one before 'and'. It's not strictly necessary, and apparently there is a lot of debate within scholarly circles about whether it should be used or not. The Independent said that it's the final comma in a list. That only makes sense if the list has one in it. "Oranges, lemons, limes and kumquats" has a final comma but it's not the "Oxford comma." Is an accurate and complete definition too much to ask for? I'll continue to get my news from the Star if this is the quality of the so-called broadsheets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: I did include an Oxford comma in my post. A list of stuff with the comma before the and. I never knew what the f**k it was until I heard that song and looked it up. So you did. Way too subtle for me but very good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 hours ago, carpetmonster said: Sounds a bit heartless, leaving bankers for the homeless to deal with while we enjoy all that extra tax income. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, BFTD said: Sounds a bit heartless, leaving bankers for the homeless to deal with while we enjoy all that extra tax income. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 8 hours ago, coprolite said: The Independent said that it's the final comma in a list. That only makes sense if the list has one in it. "Oranges, lemons, limes and kumquats" has a final comma but it's not the "Oxford comma." Is an accurate and complete definition too much to ask for? I'll continue to get my news from the Star if this is the quality of the so-called broadsheets. The Oxford comma can serve a purpose in avoiding confusion. The (made-up) example most commonly seen is a book dedication to: My parents, God and Ayn Rand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said: The Oxford comma can serve a purpose in avoiding confusion. The (made-up) example most commonly seen is a book dedication to: My parents, God and Ayn Rand Easily solved by not putting your parents before God. One for the kids, "I love my parents, Lady Gaga and Humpty Dumpty." I use it sometimes just to give emphasis to the last in the list, the extra comma is like a little drumroll. Edited September 16, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 The one example I liked was They saw in the club the lap dancers, Hitler, and Stalin Or They saw in the club the lap dancers, Hitler and Stalin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Very first line of this (excellent) song: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 6 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Very first line of this (excellent) song: I already posted it but it's a decent song so deserves another airing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Vampire Weekend are shite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I don't think I can bring myself to watch a video by something called "Vampire Weekend". Sounds like something a cable channel would've run in 2008 in the hope of attracting tween girls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I see Nadine Dorries has deleted her Twitter account. Things like this really wind me up. No member or past member of the Govt should be allowed to unilaterally delete anything that they say in their capacity as a member of the Govt. Anything that they say or write as a member of the Govt should be a matter of public record and kept for all to read and review. Dorries was more than happy to act as Billy Big Baws and proclaim on her Twitter profile that she was a UK Govt Minister for whatever, but didn’t like the scrutiny that then came with it. In this digital age there is too much rewriting of the past or removal of uncomfortable facts by politicians deleting digital records be it Twitter, WhatsApp, text messages, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: I see Nadine Dorries has deleted her Twitter account. Things like this really wind me up. No member or past member of the Govt should be allowed to unilaterally delete anything that they say in their capacity as a member of the Govt. Anything that they say or write as a member of the Govt should be a matter of public record and kept for all to read and review. Dorries was more than happy to act as Billy Big Baws and proclaim on her Twitter profile that she was a UK Govt Minister for whatever, but didn’t like the scrutiny that then came with it. In this digital age there is too much rewriting of the past or removal of uncomfortable facts by politicians deleting digital records be it Twitter, WhatsApp, text messages, etc. Don’t worry I’ve got a copy of all her tweets, if you want anything in particular just let me know. I’ve got a file marked “what a complete mental cuntress” for the more rational ones then it goes downhill from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Nadine Dorries isn't the only one. Andrea Jenkins and Education Minister Jonathan Gullis have binned their accounts. Probably to try and conceal the fact that they're absolute rockets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 I see the rolling out of the old chestnut of rising the retirement age is being mentioned again. I think the time has come to do a detailed thorough audit of the state apparatus and make deep cuts. The list is not exhaustive and open to suggestions: Scrap the house of Lords No second homes, sell them off and replace with budget hotels and office space. MPs expenses to be cut right back to bare minimum and audited thoroughly All private companies involved in NHS, government services, trains, etc to be replaced with value for money contracts or revert to state. From 2010 until now, MPs wages have increased by £18,500. This is unacceptable, considering it was during austerity. They should rise by 5% maximum each year. The Royal family and hangers on should be disbanded or privatised, failing that cut back to the bare minimum. The abuse of taxpayers cash is monumental by MPs, etc. Its time they joined the real world and take a hit like the rest of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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