DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Cowdenbeath Tory councillor Darren Watt trying to blame Nicola Sturgeon, Angela Rayner, John McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn for the attack on Amess. The c**t has no shame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Does that mean we are still slightly over represented? Scotland is only 8.1% of the UK population from a quick Google search. 5.45m out of 67.22m. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Sadly he has now passed away at the scene 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Cowdenbeath Tory councillor Darren Watt trying to blame Nicola Sturgeon, Angela Rayner, John McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn for the attack on Amess. The c**t has no shame. Those 3 words together seem very strange. What the hell has happened to Cowdenbeath? I'm sure they had the last Communist councillor in the UK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Those 3 words together seem very strange. What the hell has happened to Cowdenbeath? I'm sure they had the last Communist councillor in the UK?He's now deleted the original tweet I complained about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Does that mean we are still slightly over represented? Scotland is only 8.1% of the UK population from a quick Google search. 5.45m out of 67.22m.If, as we continue to be told,we belong to a "Union of equals" then no, we're, as are Wales and Northern Ireland, massively underrepresented. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, jakedee said: 22 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Does that mean we are still slightly over represented? Scotland is only 8.1% of the UK population from a quick Google search. 5.45m out of 67.22m. If, as we continue to be told,we belong to a "Union of equals" then no, we're, as are Wales and Northern Ireland, massively underrepresented. Surely you can't be saying that we should all have 25% of MPs from each country? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Surely you can't be saying that we should all have 25% of MPs from each country?Why not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, jakedee said: 4 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Surely you can't be saying that we should all have 25% of MPs from each country? Why not? It's not particularly fair representation. We are not a union of equals and anyone who says that is talking pish. Although in your crazy equal split between the countries, we'd be more likely to get independence. England would vote for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, jakedee said: 30 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Does that mean we are still slightly over represented? Scotland is only 8.1% of the UK population from a quick Google search. 5.45m out of 67.22m. If, as we continue to be told,we belong to a "Union of equals" then no, we're, as are Wales and Northern Ireland, massively underrepresented. One of the arguments commonly cited is that this (being a union of equal nations) wouldn’t work because of the disparity in sizes of population. It’s also given as a reason why federalism can’t work. Having smaller nations effectively outvoted because they’re … well … smaller - apparently that works just fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 What's Amess best known for?Brass Eye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, DiegoDiego said: Brass Eye. Thanks, I just noticed that being referenced elsewhere. How could I forget. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just noticed that in the forthcoming by election for David Amess's seat, neither labour nor Lib dems will field candidates which will ensure the seat remains in Tory hands. Given this govt's performance since the GE, this seems all wrong to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Just noticed that in the forthcoming by election for David Amess's seat, neither labour nor Lib dems will field candidates which will ensure the seat remains in Tory hands. Given this govt's performance since the GE, this seems all wrong to me. Aye but the principle is well established and you'd be essentially accepting murder as a way of depriving his constituents of the choice they made less than 2 years ago. Different if he was forced to step down due to indiscretions or criminality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just noticed that in the forthcoming by election for David Amess's seat, neither labour nor Lib dems will field candidates which will ensure the seat remains in Tory hands. Given this govt's performance since the GE, this seems all wrong to me.I imagine Labour are hiding the fact that they'll be utterly humiliated behind a "decent political gesture" or some such. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 George Galloway will be packing his loudhailer as we speak. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: Aye but the principle is well established and you'd be essentially accepting murder as a way of depriving his constituents of the choice they made less than 2 years ago. Different if he was forced to step down due to indiscretions or criminality. 2 hours ago, Day of the Lords said: 3 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: I imagine Labour are hiding the fact that they'll be utterly humiliated behind a "decent political gesture" or some such. Good points both! Arness's seat obviously a very safe seat in Tory heartland, and probably always will be. I'm just not comfortable with the conspiracy aspect of this arrangement which is hardly democracy in action. Supposing it had been a marginal seat, would this agreement still have been acceptable? Edited October 17, 2021 by ICTJohnboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Good points both! Arness's seat obviously a very safe seat in Tory heartland, and probably always will be. I'm just not comfortable with the conspiracy aspect of this arrangement which is hardly democracy in action. Supposing it had been a marginal seat, would this agreement still have been acceptable? tbh I think it probably would have been. I'm fairly sure that the only parties who stood against Labour MPs in the by-election after Jo Cox's terrorist murder were the usual far right vermin/attention-seekers. I don't think any other major party stood a candidate. I don't think Jo Cox's seat was a marginal either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Day of the Lords said: tbh I think it probably would have been. I'm fairly sure that the only parties who stood against Labour MPs in the by-election after Jo Cox's terrorist murder were the usual far right vermin/attention-seekers. I don't think any other major party stood a candidate. I don't think Jo Cox's seat was a marginal either. 2016 Batley and Spen by-election - Wikipedia English Democrat, BNP, National Front, Liberty GB... would have been an interesting debate putting this lot in a room. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 George Galloway will be packing his loudhailer as we speak. Would FAF if he ended up losing his deposit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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