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4 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Grim advert at the bottom of this thread for me.

I mean, I'm under the impression that the adverts reflect what you've been looking at online, so I expect gambling websites and weird fetish porn stuff. I don't know what the f**k this is.

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Get AdBlock, it's worth it.

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58 minutes ago, strichener said:

Sure, the answer is to work less and take slower modes of transport to spend our extra leisure time.  The horse and carriages will be the transportation of the future.

Oh and Labour enacting a 32 hour week is as likely as you getting back your Northern Rock investment.

NotThePars is right. There would have been miserable versions of you saying the NHS will never work or that universal suffrage will never happen.

f**k being so pessimistic.

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3 minutes ago, Detournement said:

NotThePars is right. There would have been miserable versions of you saying the NHS will never work or that universal suffrage will never happen.

f**k being so pessimistic.

Don't confuse pessimism with realism. 

Most people are not willing to inconvenience themselves or waste their precious time to save 3mg of emissions regardless of how many hours they have of "free" time.

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Don't confuse pessimism with realism. 
Most people are not willing to inconvenience themselves or waste their precious time to save 3mg of emissions regardless of how many hours they have of "free" time.
People can be cajoled by taxes.

It has to be done in a way that doesn't just punish those at the bottom - but restricts everyone in a fair (ish) manner.
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It's worth recalling that VAT doesn't apply to jet fuel and realising that this is because it's overwhelmingly consumed by the richest in society.


I’m not 100% sure you understand how VAT works.

You do realise that if there was VAT on this fuel, the VAT would be recoverable by the purchaser (the airline) in full as input tax? So, in other words, it would not be a sticking cost.
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3 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

 


I’m not 100% sure you understand how VAT works.

You do realise that if there was VAT on this fuel, the VAT would be recoverable by the purchaser (the airline) in full as input tax? So, in other words, it would not be a sticking cost.

 

I got that mixed up.

There is no duty on the fuel and there is no VAT on the ticket price.

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13 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

You don't pay VAT on kids clothes either because these are mainly used by billionaires.

Or books. That's why you need people like Bastani to tell the lumpens what's good for them, salt of the earth that they are. It's just teasing their aspirations to make a flight to Spain nearly within their reach, much fairer to make it only available to the 1 percenters.

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On 25/09/2019 at 18:10, MixuFixit said:

I want us to do zeppelins again tbh

Iron Maiden's singer was all over that. He has a huge hanger somewhere for the testing and manufacture of giant futuristic (and safe) dirigibles.

Now that I've typed that, I'm wondering if it was maybe a dream  :unsure:

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30 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

‘Mainstream’ Tories arguing the conference should be used to unite different wings of their party.

Don't hold your breath folks.  This will be like Nuremberg.

 

The recent purge has removed a number of once-influentiql figures from the hall.  DespiteJohnson being as much a liability as was heavily predicted, the Tories will rally round him as they have become a death cult - I'm thinking a combo of Nuremberg and Waco.

Villiers confirmed as much today by attempting to trash the investigation into Johnson's buiness dealings whilst London Mayor, and John McDonnell was correct to quickly point out who is initiating it.  Such is the adoration the hard-of-thinking in the UK electorate have for this charlatan, he could have shagged the Queen Mother's corpse and they would still look the other way.

The rest of us deserve better, hopefully starting this week.

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