Detournement Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 The world's most Juche news service says he already has! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 hours ago, JamieThomas said: No Surrender to Al Qaeda From the @Melanius Mullarkey school of rhyming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 ^^^^^^^ Your m8sHannibal Lecter lost his way a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 21:41, milton75 said: Some interesting demographic analysis in the press today. For years we've been told that Scotland is no more "inclusive" or "civic" than the rest of the UK. Well it turns out that while on average there isn't much in it, the detailed stats show the following: 1) Scots polled as Indy/SNP voters are more likely than people in the rest of the UK to be positive about immigration and multiculturalism. However, 2) Scots polled as being supportive of "unionist" parties (Labour and Tories specifically being highlighted) are less likely than people in the rest of the UK to be positive about immigration and multiculturalism. The esteemed Prof. Sir John Curtice (as so loved by Unionists any time his psephologist skillset allowed him to make a point that sounded bad for the Yes campaign) explained it on Radio Scotland this morning. He went as far as to describe it as unusually civic nationalism in Scotland. So the upshot is: if it wasn't for the less tolerant, and in some cases xenophobic, unionists, Scotland would be a more tolerant place. 9 hours ago, banana said: Have a source for this, it sounds plausible but also rife for statistical skullduggery. Point 2, of course a subset of folk away from the average are going to be away from the average of the entire set. Sure; here's the study. http://www.natcen.ac.uk/media/1672027/Do-Scotland-and-England-and-Wales-Have-Different-Views-About-Immigration.pdf And here's Prof Curtice on GMS: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0001fq4 (1hr 55 in ) Here's the BBC:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46457341 Quote The authors comment: "The fact that those who back Scotland's largest party, the SNP, hold relatively positive views about migration helps create the impression that Scotland as a whole does so as well. "However, we have seen that the relative success of the SNP in securing the support of those with positive attitudes towards migration is counterbalanced by some tendency for those who back one of the other three main parties in Scotland to be less positive about immigration than those who support those parties in England and Wales." RE point 2 that you mention. Yes, a subset will give a specific sectional view, however the Labour and Conservative voters in Scotland are LESS favourable about immigration than their counterparts in England - the closet comparable subset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 You've got to admire the French. Get a concession after rioting then go for more rioting to see what else they can achieve. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/gilets-jaunes-paris-protests-france-emmanuel-macron-yellow-vest-riot-a8673561.html Some ultra violence planned for today. Real horrorshow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 You've got to admire the French. Get a concession after rioting then go for more rioting to see what else they can achieve.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/gilets-jaunes-paris-protests-france-emmanuel-macron-yellow-vest-riot-a8673561.html Some ultra violence planned for today. Real horrorshow. Ive not looked closely into this but on first look capitulating to the fuel tax demands seems like a bit of a mistake by Macron. It just shows that the protestors have the upper hand and surely they will use this to not only get more concessions but crush Macron's plans for further reforms. Whatever you think about the policies and the philosophy of the reforms he's making, it's hard to see this as anything but a political disaster for Macron, which it probably didn't have to be. It seems hard to see him as having much credibility when it comes to further reforms, which seems the entire mandate for his position. I know French politics are very different from ours but from the outside, and with all the ignorance of the situation I have, this looks like a political disaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I know French politics are very different from ours but from the outside, and with all the ignorance of the situation I have, this looks like a political disaster. Yeah, it's not like anything like this could ever happen here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 A UK military intelligence psy-op is probably the last thing I would have expected to find in Auchtermuchty. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/foreign-office-funds-2m-infowars-13707574 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: A UK military intelligence psy-op is probably the last thing I would have expected to find in Auchtermuchty. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/foreign-office-funds-2m-infowars-13707574 Hardly news. Exactly the same thing happens to the SNP. It's always the same names that crop up on their posts and you can be 99% certain that they'll have "ex-army" or something across those lines as their occupation with their city location hidden. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) On Friday, December 07, 2018 at 23:46, milton75 said: Sure; here's the study. http://www.natcen.ac.uk/media/1672027/Do-Scotland-and-England-and-Wales-Have-Different-Views-About-Immigration.pdf And here's Prof Curtice on GMS: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0001fq4 (1hr 55 in ) Here's the BBC:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46457341 RE point 2 that you mention. Yes, a subset will give a specific sectional view, however the Labour and Conservative voters in Scotland are LESS favourable about immigration than their counterparts in England - the closet comparable subset. Kind of makes sense when you consider the type of voters that the SNP have hoovered up, from Labour in particular. Edited December 9, 2018 by Lurkst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-could-be-prime-minister-in-days-if-brexit-deal-rejected-labour-says-11576164 So how much chance is there of Labour forming a government on Wednesday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-could-be-prime-minister-in-days-if-brexit-deal-rejected-labour-says-11576164 So how much chance is there of Labour forming a government on Wednesday? None 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, BawWatchin said: Hardly news. Exactly the same thing happens to the SNP. It's always the same names that crop up on their posts and you can be 99% certain that they'll have "ex-army" or something across those lines as their occupation with their city location hidden. The only news to me is where it's based, as I drive past regularly and was only aware of some kind of artists' space. It's all a bit sinister that something apparently set up to 'counter Russian propaganda' is being used to propagate smears against government opposition. The reality of course is that both of these things share a mutual interest in protecting the warmongering establishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, doulikefish said: None I agree, but I’m beginning to think a GE might be unavoidable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, Granny Danger said: I agree, but I’m beginning to think a GE might be unavoidable. Which will probably be a hung parliament with UKIP holding the balance of power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Which will probably be a hung parliament with UKIP holding the balance of power. Scotland can only hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Which will probably be a hung parliament with UKIP holding the balance of power. UKIP is not going to win seats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Granny Danger said: UKIP is not going to win seats. It may not be UKIP as such, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a "UKIP" type party led by Farage ready in time for the next GE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Everybody's argument was that once the Conservatives got a competent leader in charge they would scoosh Labour the next chance they get. Currently it seems to be *squints at the news* Boris Johnson and Esther McVey being lined up to have a go at May. Looks like it's coming home, lads. Rainbow coalition time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: It may not be UKIP as such, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a "UKIP" type party led by Farage ready in time for the next GE. Britain First is never going to hold the balance of power m8. Your membership money is wasted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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