surely not! Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 It's not a case of just handing over £2k and getting into the Scottish Cup, the work involved in getting a licence isn't straightforward and ground upgrades could cost a lot of money. Yeah, I know that, BUT the poster I was replying to suggested there were a lot of teams that didn't need much, indeed may even already be at the standard that strollers and Golspie had achieved ground wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Civil Service Strollers installed an old bike shed to meet the ground standards, while Golspie Sutherland did this in terms of adding cover for spectators: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Civil Service Strollers installed an old bike shed to meet the ground standards, while Golspie Sutherland did this in terms of adding cover for spectators: Based on how easy those both seem to be for a range of junior sides, then why don't they get licensed to compete in the big scottish? Is it the pyramid or the fact that full accounts may also be needed or indeed some other reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Think the main issue is the commitment to progression clause as that seems to imply clubs having to leave the SJFA and join the EoS or SoS at least where clubs based south of the Tay are concerned, although that has yet to be tested in practice. Haddington Athletic will be the one to watch on that as they are known to have moved beyond the 2K payment stage and are slowly getting the boxes ticked on entry level licensing. I don't claim to be in the loop on what happens in junior apparatchik circles, but have been told that it is the concept of progression that the SJFA have an issue with more than anything else in that it implies that the superleague champions could not simply decide that they prefer to stay where they are and would have to either accept promotion or participation in a playoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Any updates on Haddington (The Old Northerner I think his name is)? I'd love to see them in the Lowland at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmac25 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Not involved with Haddington but seen in the press they had to get a toilet block and first aid room plus an enclosed fence. Watched the highlights of their game at the week's and it's no obvious that any of the work involved underway. LL might be too soon for them this year. There's only one other non member club currently working on licencing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Not involved with Haddington but seen in the press they had to get a toilet block and first aid room plus an enclosed fence. Watched the highlights of their game at the week's and it's no obvious that any of the work involved underway. LL might be too soon for them this year. There's only one other non member club currently working on licencing Edusport Academy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmac25 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Edusport Academy?I thought duns maybe but could be edusports, am soccer or anyone really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Northerner Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Any updates on Haddington (The Old Northerner I think his name is)? I'd love to see them in the Lowland at some point. Building and fencing work is out for tender at present. The ground around the current boundary has been cleared enough to allow the fencing to be upgraded but the tender (as it stands) has been offered as both fencing & building. Some changes had to be made to the initial build plans which caused a delay. I'm disappointed we won't make the 31st this time around but the licencing committee meets every three months IIRC so still very much an on-going project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Brogue Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Haddinton are a gid outfit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkgatequeens Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Well done for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Building and fencing work is out for tender at present. The ground around the current boundary has been cleared enough to allow the fencing to be upgraded but the tender (as it stands) has been offered as both fencing & building. Some changes had to be made to the initial build plans which caused a delay. I'm disappointed we won't make the 31st this time around but the licencing committee meets every three months IIRC so still very much an on-going project. Good to hear. I enjoyed my first trip for the game v Dundonald in August. I probably won't make another game this season but I'll hopefully be a long a fair bit next year. Keep us updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old speckled hen Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I'm not sure if the £2000 is lost or not if your application is refused. Three clubs, Girvan, St Cuthberts Wanderers and Newton Stewart were refused so they would know. There's quite a lot involved for a club that isn't close to getting a license. Requirements http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/ClubLicensing/2015/2016%20Manual%20-%20Prt%201%20&%202.pdf Clubs who have been granted licenses or been refused http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/ClubLicensing/2015/2016%20Manual%20-%20Prt%201%20&%202.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 For those who can't load a PDF,Ground requirements: Health and Safety certification from local council. Clubs shall have a suitable safety and contingency policy. Surface should be Grass or a FIFA One Star artificial surface. Minimum Pitch Dimensions are 90x56m Suitable lines and goalposts There shall be a sensible distance from where the pitch ends and the terracing starts Clubs shall have adequate irrigation in place. Floodlights with 200 lux are recommended but are not required. Clubs need 2 changing rooms (and referees room) with: 5 showers, 22 seats, 2 showers and 1 massage table A technical area, medical area and a toilet fro doping control Clubs need 100 covered places with a documented capacity of the ground Clubs shall provide provisions for fans such as WCs and provision for disabled supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tynie1874 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Has it been known for doping to take place at EoS level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Valley Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Has it been known for doping to take place at EoS level? There's a joke in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkgatequeens Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 There was a Michael Dopping a few years ago though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non_sequitur Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Am pretty sure someone on here from Burntisland have mentioned they don't wish to go junior Aye well theyll say that publicly but if they can stay in the big Scottish then theyll go Junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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