Todders Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I wonder how many of these "ordinary yes voters" hang around her social media pages. You don't need to hang around her social media pages to know what a foul woman she it. Her presence in the tabloid media tells you all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 He isn't one now. Exactly. The whole transphobic thing was a load of nonsense. He has actually stated many times that he doesn't care what Chelsea Manning does to herself to make her feel more comfortable in her own body and that she can call herself whatever she likes. It's only parroted by people who have taken certain quotes out of the context of the articles he made them in. Edit: Editied for spelling. Coming down with man flu so fingers aren't doing what they are told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Agreed. The whole "vile transphobe" thing is one of many tired motifs that Unionists use against Campbell. It's boring and desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Agreed. The whole "vile transphobe" thing is one of many tired motifs that Unionists use against Campbell. It's boring and desperate. He's definitely very good at whataboutery with the whole 'bbbbbut what about labour' argument he uses when someone criticises the SNP. I think that's beyond doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 He's definitely very good at whataboutery with the whole 'bbbbbut what about labour' argument he uses when someone criticises the SNP. I think that's beyond doubt. There is zero whataboutery required when criticising Labour. Only the existence of said, flip flopping, Labour party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 He's definitely very good at whataboutery with the whole 'bbbbbut what about labour' argument he uses when someone criticises the SNP. I think that's beyond doubt. Bless. You unionists really try hard don't you. You see, what tends to happen is, Labour are so cataclysmically stupid, they put their foot in it themselves. When they go on about "Scotland's NHS in crisis", what they forget is that people KNOW that the best performing NHS in the UK is NHS Scotland. The worst performing one is NHS Wales. Can you guess who's in charge of that? When Labour stop being unelectable, buck-passing SNPbad charlatans, they can then stop being criticised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSquid Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Exactly. The whole transphobic thing was a load of nonsense. He has actually stated many times that he doesn't care what Chelsea Manning does to herself to make her feel more comfortable in her own body and that she can call herself whatever she likes.I don't think you understand what being transphobic actually is.A paragraph of breathtaking idiocy. Worse than the 'OK Campbell is a transphobic scumbag, but he supports independence so we better rally the Nat Wagons' is your cretinous attempts to pretend he isn't actually a transphobe from a position of ludicrous ignorance. 'I say what I see. A man. You can call him 'her' if you want but you don't get to tell ME'. Sadly I suspect you are such a dumb f**k you see nothing wrong with this, which is head shakingly depressing. I hate that I share a country with the likes of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gullane No 4 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You know you could have said this hours ago and saved your keyboard a lot of hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I don't think you understand what being transphobic actually is. A paragraph of breathtaking idiocy. Worse than the 'OK Campbell is a transphobic scumbag, but he supports independence so we better rally the Nat Wagons' is your cretinous attempts to pretend he isn't actually a transphobe from a position of ludicrous ignorance. 'I say what I see. A man. You can call him 'her' if you want but you don't get to tell ME'. Sadly I suspect you are such a dumb f**k you see nothing wrong with this, which is head shakingly depressing. I hate that I share a country with the likes of you. Why don't you provide the dictionary definition and then explain how this matches his behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I don't think you understand what being transphobic actually is. Transphobia can be emotional disgust, fear, anger or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectations I don't think you do. You don't get to say what words mean, chum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 this seems pretty on the money regarding stories... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Of all of the different aspects of this, social media is probably where you see the most bias shown. To a pretty shameful degree. Most other things they'd at least pay lip service to if nothing else. But it seems there's free reign on this front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Posters still refusing to believe Wings is a transphobe and branding it a "motif used by unionists". Remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Posters still refusing to believe Wings is a transphobe and branding it a "motif used by unionists". Remarkable. Astonishing. What's your definition of a transphobe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You can read my posts on the subject in the thread about Wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You can read my posts on the subject in the thread about Wings. That's fine but what's your definition of transphobia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Astonishing. What's your definition of a transphobe? OED's definition is: "Intense dislike of or prejudice against transsexual or transgender people:" Hardly applicable to Wings. That won't stop those with an agenda though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 My definition of transphobia means absolutely nothing as I am not a transgender person. Funnily enough none of these dictionaries ever seem to mention the idea of misgendering and so on - it's almost as if oppression is a complex system of societal structures! This is also taking away from the regressive political idiocy of many people on both sides of the independence question who utterly, utterly refuse to hold their own side to the same standards as the would the other, and failing to recognise that there are many people in the Yes camp who have awful politics that damage progressive ideas. When these people are challenged, it's "unionist propaganda" or an "agenda". Case in point is Fide, who asked me which side I voted for after posting criticism of Wings on this forum. Rubbish tribalist politics based on 'Yes can do no evil' slavering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 So Wings isn't a transphobe then. Glad we cleared that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 My definition of transphobia means absolutely nothing as I am not a transgender person. You're not a cat either but you know what the word means. Have another go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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