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It’s one of the worst and one of the most expensive systems in Europe. If the Scottish government were really serious about reducing car journeys and emissions they’d sort this out. They won’t, though.

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5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

I was having a look at rail season ticket options. The flexible tickets don't seem to offer much, if any, saving. Anyone else tried it, because either I'm doing it wrong or it's a shite offer? I hope it's just the former.

I posted this on the Covid thread, has anyone arrived a more positive conclusion?

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Said it a million times I hope they never sort out their pricing shambles as its subsidising folk who just do a tiny bit of research.

It's often worth getting a railcard if there is two of you travelling too, even for one off journeys. Me and my pal going to London at weekend took 60 quid off the journey for the price of a 30 quid railcard. Except the rail card didn't cost 30 as you can get one for 10 quids worth of clubcard vouchers.

I'm a big fan of breaking journey's for fun days out too. A 20 quid return to Falkirk the other week allowed me to get my breakfast at Haymarket, onto Falkirk for an admittedly underwhelming look at their horses, into Linlithgow for pints before heading into Edinburgh for tea and then back home working out at 4 quid per train.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Said it a million times I hope they never sort out their pricing shambles as its subsidising folk who just do a tiny bit of research.

It's often worth getting a railcard if there is two of you travelling too, even for one off journeys. Me and my pal going to London at weekend took 60 quid off the journey for the price of a 30 quid railcard. Except the rail card didn't cost 30 as you can get one for 10 quids worth of clubcard vouchers.

I'm a big fan of breaking journey's for fun days out too. A 20 quid return to Falkirk the other week allowed me to get my breakfast at Haymarket, onto Falkirk for an admittedly underwhelming look at their horses, into Linlithgow for pints before heading into Edinburgh for tea and then back home working out at 4 quid per train.

 

 

You know how to live.

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1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said:

Said it a million times I hope they never sort out their pricing shambles as its subsidising folk who just do a tiny bit of research.

It's often worth getting a railcard if there is two of you travelling too, even for one off journeys. Me and my pal going to London at weekend took 60 quid off the journey for the price of a 30 quid railcard. Except the rail card didn't cost 30 as you can get one for 10 quids worth of clubcard vouchers.

I'm a big fan of breaking journey's for fun days out too. A 20 quid return to Falkirk the other week allowed me to get my breakfast at Haymarket, onto Falkirk for an admittedly underwhelming look at their horses, into Linlithgow for pints before heading into Edinburgh for tea and then back home working out at 4 quid per train.

 

 

Me and Mrs. Back get the two together railcard whenever we make our infrequent trips to London.  That with booking in advance makes 1st class very affordable.

Me and some mates did some groundhopping down to Blackpool a few weeks back (not 1st class for a lads weekend on the piss) and still saved a few quid with that.

Railcards are brilliant.

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They're going to have to clarify that story as there's no way they're actually striking for twelve days in a row the month before Christmas. If so, then good luck keeping their family off the street this winter, all in the name of whatever syndicalist nonsense battle the RMT leadership are up to fighting now.

Public transport should be nationalised and as part of that process, its workers should be both given a public sector contract and have their right to strike abolished. 

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There’s some very angry, shouty man from the RMT on the BBC Nine tv programme just now. They’re not going to gain much public support or get much interaction with the management, if this bloke is representative on their discussion process. It was a stream of confrontational cliches to the presenter bloke; “no resolution”, “let me be crystal clear”.

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11 hours ago, deegee said:

There’s some very angry, shouty man from the RMT on the BBC Nine tv programme just now. They’re not going to gain much public support or get much interaction with the management, if this bloke is representative on their discussion process. It was a stream of confrontational cliches to the presenter bloke; “no resolution”, “let me be crystal clear”.

May have been the same thick shouty Union rep on the radio this morning...he was utterly hopeless.  He was asked a number of times as to why the 4.78% offer had not been put to a vote (the exec committee decided on their behalf that it wasnt good enough) he replied that the RMT are a democratic organisation and that there was no need for all union members to vote on it.

The 4.78% offer is over two years but to me that's pretty good in this day and age of low inflation (we got 0.9% at my work this year)

Blatantly clear that their proposed strike is timed for COP26 as a bargaining chip - he denied this  whilst conceding that no trains at all will run in Scotland over a two week period if the strike goes ahead.

Why are pretty much all Union reps un-educated and shouty?

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1 hour ago, Caledonian1 said:

May have been the same thick shouty Union rep on the radio this morning...he was utterly hopeless.  He was asked a number of times as to why the 4.78% offer had not been put to a vote (the exec committee decided on their behalf that it wasnt good enough) he replied that the RMT are a democratic organisation and that there was no need for all union members to vote on it.

The 4.78% offer is over two years but to me that's pretty good in this day and age of low inflation (we got 0.9% at my work this year)

Blatantly clear that their proposed strike is timed for COP26 as a bargaining chip - he denied this  whilst conceding that no trains at all will run in Scotland over a two week period if the strike goes ahead.

Why are pretty much all Union reps un-educated and shouty?

Because the upper echelons of trade unionism is an overwhelmingly male environment. Toxic masculinity, aggression and being seen as tough are seen as positive character traits. 

As we all saw when Richard Leonard was Labour leader this comes across appallingly to most normal people.

It's a shame because I want unions to be good but the model is shite.

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May have been the same thick shouty Union rep on the radio this morning...he was utterly hopeless.  He was asked a number of times as to why the 4.78% offer had not been put to a vote (the exec committee decided on their behalf that it wasnt good enough) he replied that the RMT are a democratic organisation and that there was no need for all union members to vote on it.
The 4.78% offer is over two years but to me that's pretty good in this day and age of low inflation (we got 0.9% at my work this year)
Blatantly clear that their proposed strike is timed for COP26 as a bargaining chip - he denied this  whilst conceding that no trains at all will run in Scotland over a two week period if the strike goes ahead.
Why are pretty much all Union reps un-educated and shouty?



In their defence (the workers) they've been striking for months every Sunday. I doubt it's really hurt the company or punters given the country still isn't on it's feet. It'll have hurt the workers' pockets more given they get extra on a Sunday. They will be planning the strikes for COP26 as it's their only chance of getting any joy. If the company stands their ground here then I doubt there will be another offer. IMO it's a shambles they never accepted the offer they were given as I doubt they'll get anything better in this climate. If I was an RMT member I'd personally be more pissed off with them than the company right now.
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3 hours ago, Caledonian1 said:

Blatantly clear that their proposed strike is timed for COP26 as a bargaining chip

Of course the RMT are using COP26 as leverage and they should be applauded for doing so. This dispute has been rumbling on for months and the Scottish Government have had ample time to deal with it, but have chosen not to.

It isn’t all about a pay rise either. It’s about rest day working enhancements and assurances over pensions and redundancies. 

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4 hours ago, Caledonian1 said:

The 4.78% offer is over two years but to me that's pretty good in this day and age of low inflation (we got 0.9% at my work this year)

I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying but we aren't in a time of low inflation at all at the moment.

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Fairplay using COP to their advantage. 

I'm not an expert but 300 less trains a day doesn't seem a great move.

Staffing a 7 day service for 6 days then hoping for the best on a Sunday also seems a shoddy way to do things.

Am I right in thinking there was a rest day bonus payment that ended, and the drivers managed to get the payment back, but not the rest of the staff ?

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2 hours ago, Have some faith in Magic said:

The GMB guy for the Glasgow cleansing workers was saying that an £850 wage increase a year worked out at £6.50 a week after tax and insurance. 

Interesting maths from him. 

I heard that too and was lying in my bed trying to work it all out.  Why was he not challenged on this. £850 per year increase sounds pretty good to me.

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