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36 minutes ago, bishopburn boy said:

Not that long passed on the Stranraer line !

That's a very good point. Much as I love trains - and Stranraer - I don't see how that train service is sustainable. Before the ferry terminal shut, the train was still half-deserted (more than once, the ferry was a wee bit delayed but the train had merrily set off on time leaving everyone stranded). But it's a cracking trip, even if you don't have some silky football at Stair Park to look forward to at your destination. 

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I use the morning train to Stranraer about once a month. It arrives there at about 9 o'clock. The largest number of people I've seen alighting at Stranraer is 5. It's great and Scotrail must continue with this service as I prefer it to driving.

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On 18/06/2019 at 22:09, Bold Rover said:

I use the morning train to Stranraer about once a month. It arrives there at about 9 o'clock. The largest number of people I've seen alighting at Stranraer is 5. It's great and Scotrail must continue with this service as I prefer it to driving.

Sounds like the polar opposite of the Inverness services to Glasgow.  2 carriages taking people from the 7th biggest settlement in the country to the biggest.  That's even before you take people getting on at Aviemore and Perth into consideration.  This is on a Friday too.

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The shambles that is the Caledonian sleeper service continues with some passengers still being put on buses. They have caused so many problems in recent weeks that Network Rail are running out of patience with them and they have seemingly come very close to barring the trains from their tracks.

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The shambles that is the Caledonian sleeper service continues with some passengers still being put on buses. They have caused so many problems in recent weeks that Network Rail are running out of patience with them and they have seemingly come very close to barring the trains from their tracks.
Not Scotrail trains anymore - Serco run them.

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1 hour ago, cdisaaccie said:
4 hours ago, peasy23 said:
The shambles that is the Caledonian sleeper service continues with some passengers still being put on buses. They have caused so many problems in recent weeks that Network Rail are running out of patience with them and they have seemingly come very close to barring the trains from their tracks.

Not Scotrail trains anymore - Serco run them.

Nobody making Rangers jokes? I’m disappointed.

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4 hours ago, IainMorton said:

Nobody making Rangers jokes? I’m disappointed.

I came on so to do; you beat me to it! 

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8 hours ago, peasy23 said:

The shambles that is the Caledonian sleeper service continues with some passengers still being put on buses. They have caused so many problems in recent weeks that Network Rail are running out of patience with them and they have seemingly come very close to barring the trains from their tracks.

Still in testing and snag fixing phase according to Serco. You would have thought they would have done that before launching.

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The shambles that is the Caledonian sleeper service continues with some passengers still being put on buses. They have caused so many problems in recent weeks that Network Rail are running out of patience with them and they have seemingly come very close to barring the trains from their tracks.


Imagine booking a sleeper and getting a bus. I presume full refunds all round?

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Still in testing and snag fixing phase according to Serco. You would have thought they would have done that before launching.
They are supposed to have 4 trains in service but so far have only managed to get 2 onto the tracks. The Highlander service to Fort William is still using tje old stock. The new trains have been a mess with constant failures, water leaks in the cabins, heating and aircon problems. Last week's breakdown which saw a whole trainload on the northbound service turfed off at Stafford at 5am was attributed to flat spots on some of the wheels.

Their latest plan is to try and get the two trains in use working correctly then put them onto the Highlander service, then stick the other 2 new trains on the Glasgow/Edinburgh routes so the staff on there will have to go through the whole snagging process again.

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Imagine booking a sleeper and getting a bus. I presume full refunds all round?
Yep, and the prices now have shot through the roof because of Serco's vision of having a 4 star hotel on wheels.

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1 minute ago, peasy23 said:
1 hour ago, Savage Henry said:


Imagine booking a sleeper and getting a bus. I presume full refunds all round?

Yep, and the prices now have shot through the roof because of Serco's vision of having a 4 star hotel on wheels.

If you're travelling on your own you have to pay double as they don't allow cabin sharing anymore, despite the 2 bunks. 

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If you're travelling on your own you have to pay double as they don't allow cabin sharing anymore, despite the 2 bunks. 


I don’t know about you, but I almost never travel without my posse, or at very least my crew, so this doesn’t effect me.

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On 20/06/2019 at 19:46, peasy23 said:

They are supposed to have 4 trains in service but so far have only managed to get 2 onto the tracks. The Highlander service to Fort William is still using tje old stock. The new trains have been a mess with constant failures, water leaks in the cabins, heating and aircon problems. Last week's breakdown which saw a whole trainload on the northbound service turfed off at Stafford at 5am was attributed to flat spots on some of the wheels.

Their latest plan is to try and get the two trains in use working correctly then put them onto the Highlander service, then stick the other 2 new trains on the Glasgow/Edinburgh routes so the staff on there will have to go through the whole snagging process again.

The fault last week was actually due to the train manager. When the units coupled together in London they were in a different configuration than usual and he didn’t update the trains main computer to reflect that, which meant the coaches were unable to communicate with the computer and after a set period of time the emergency brakes deployed, causing wheel flats in the process. 

You are spot on about how much of a shambles the trains are though and I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to see these removed from service in the near future as the quality of work from CAF is horrendous and potentially unsafe. The reason being given is that CAF panicked thinking Brexit wasn’t going to happen sooner and rushed half finished trains from Spain over to a depot in Kilmarnock where the plan was to finish them off with a team of their own factory workers alongside a bunch of Scottish contractors. Obviously this hasn’t went to plan and they are now more than likely costing themselves more money than if they had been completed in Spain. 

Btw I don’t work for any of these companies but Sercos main inspector on the job is a friend of mine. From day one they haven’t seen a spec sheet to specify torque settings etc. I hope it never happens, but if these trains were to be involved in a fatal accident there will be people going to jail.

 

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4 hours ago, IrishBhoy said:

The fault last week was actually due to the train manager. When the units coupled together in London they were in a different configuration than usual and he didn’t update the trains main computer to reflect that, which meant the coaches were unable to communicate with the computer and after a set period of time the emergency brakes deployed, causing wheel flats in the process. 

You are spot on about how much of a shambles the trains are though and I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to see these removed from service in the near future as the quality of work from CAF is horrendous and potentially unsafe. The reason being given is that CAF panicked thinking Brexit wasn’t going to happen sooner and rushed half finished trains from Spain over to a depot in Kilmarnock where the plan was to finish them off with a team of their own factory workers alongside a bunch of Scottish contractors. Obviously this hasn’t went to plan and they are now more than likely costing themselves more money than if they had been completed in Spain. 

Btw I don’t work for any of these companies but Sercos main inspector on the job is a friend of mine. From day one they haven’t seen a spec sheet to specify torque settings etc. I hope it never happens, but if these trains were to be involved in a fatal accident there will be people going to jail.

 

 

'kin hell... I have never particularly enjoyed sleeper trains but after reading this there's no danger I'm taking another one.

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I never really understood the need for a sleeper. Either go the day/night before, or get up early. The sleeper gets to Watford, or somewhere, in the middle of the night then lies in a siding for a few hours.

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I never really understood the need for a sleeper. Either go the day/night before, or get up early. The sleeper gets to Watford, or somewhere, in the middle of the night then lies in a siding for a few hours.


Exactly! The only people affected by the current shambolic service are oddballs. Probably paedos.

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