velo army Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, virginton said: Which part of the conclusions are wrong exactly? Be extremely specific. QED my man . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, velo army said: QED my man . That'll be a swing and a miss then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, virginton said: That'll be a swing and a miss then. Have a lovely Christmas amigo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 18 hours ago, TxRover said: As predicted, plus his traditional red dot. So, let’s make a note that Vikingwang has clearly stated that using “shorthand measures” that provide “highly similar results” are valid, so the next time (probably later today) he gets pedantic, and attacks someone about not being exactly correct, he can blow it out his arse. 17 hours ago, virginton said: Which part of the conclusions are wrong exactly? Be extremely specific. Never one to disappoint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Driver unhurt thankfully.A pic of the train hit by a tree today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 not a nice one for the driver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Could he not have swerved out the way? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 tree was too big for that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR96 Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 Conductor on my train home from work today was a complete p***k. Three wee guys about 14/15 got on and sat across from me. They had return tickets from Motherwell to Glasgow - it was those big f**k off tickets with the QR code on them, which as far as I know you can only get off a member of staff so presumably whoever sold them to the boys on the way in fucked up and gave them tickets that were only valid on the Cross Country trains that go through Motherwell. The guy then took the 3 tickets, scrunched them up and put them in his pocket meaning they couldn’t get through the barriers at Motherwell without buying another 3 off him. So unnecessary - a quick word in passing letting them know to look out for it in future would’ve been sufficient as it clearly wasn’t their fault as far as I could see. Thankfully a guy in another carriage came through to let the conductor know someone had left rucksack on the train so he fucked off to deal with that. Still had their tickets so the boys had to wait on to the next stop where there’s no barriers. Jobsworth p***k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 11 hours ago, ScottR96 said: presumably whoever sold them to the boys on the way in fucked up and gave them tickets that were only valid on the Cross Country trains that go through Motherwell. Presumably a Cross Country employee, in which case it's not a f**k up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR96 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: Presumably a Cross Country employee, in which case it's not a f**k up? If they got on at Motherwell they would’ve needed it to get through the barrier so I’m assuming they bought it off the person manning the gates. Regardless of how they ended up with that type of ticket, it looked pretty obvious it was an honest mistake at worst and the conductor’s reaction was completely OTT. It still would’ve worked on the barriers, so all that was required, if anything, was pointing it out so they knew for future reference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 20 minutes ago, ScottR96 said: If they got on at Motherwell they would’ve needed it to get through the barrier so I’m assuming they bought it off the person manning the gates. Regardless of how they ended up with that type of ticket, it looked pretty obvious it was an honest mistake at worst and the conductor’s reaction was completely OTT. It still would’ve worked on the barriers, so all that was required, if anything, was pointing it out so they knew for future reference. I agree the conductor has gone OTT but maybe he’s dealt with them on more than one occasion and felt it wasn’t quite as innocent a mistake as it appeared to you. I don’t believe Scotrail employees can sell Cross Country tickets so if your assumption is correct then they surely must have bought it on a Cross Country train? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR96 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 12 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I agree the conductor has gone OTT but maybe he’s dealt with them on more than one occasion and felt it wasn’t quite as innocent a mistake as it appeared to you. I don’t believe Scotrail employees can sell Cross Country tickets so if your assumption is correct then they surely must have bought it on a Cross Country train? It’s possible they got on a Cross Country train at Wishaw (no barriers) and bought a ticket on the train, as there’s no way they could’ve got on at Motherwell without a ticket. I assumed they got on at Motherwell as the guy was insisting that they got off there, but that could have been so they had no option but to buy another ticket. If that is the case then they’ve probably jumped on the first train they’ve seen headed for Glasgow not thinking anything of it and paid their money in good faith. Aye, he might have had previous with them but I didn’t get that impression. It looked to me like he’s just decided to throw the book at them. They weren’t being disruptive at any point either, I could maybe have seen his point if they were acting like dicks the whole journey, or had complaints about them from other passengers but they just sat there talking among themselves. It definitely could’ve been handled so much better imo, but the guy just couldn’t be reasoned with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandmac Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I'm finding the info on the scotrail app somewhat confusing,you get the impression trains from Inverness to the central belt aren't running south of Perth due to some issues Perth to Stirling,but other trains running on that line apparently Also what defines minor and major disruption?all trains being cancelled from Inverness to wick is classified as minor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 6 hours ago, ScottR96 said: It’s possible they got on a Cross Country train at Wishaw (no barriers) and bought a ticket on the train, as there’s no way they could’ve got on at Motherwell without a ticket. I assumed they got on at Motherwell as the guy was insisting that they got off there, but that could have been so they had no option but to buy another ticket. If that is the case then they’ve probably jumped on the first train they’ve seen headed for Glasgow not thinking anything of it and paid their money in good faith. Aye, he might have had previous with them but I didn’t get that impression. It looked to me like he’s just decided to throw the book at them. They weren’t being disruptive at any point either, I could maybe have seen his point if they were acting like dicks the whole journey, or had complaints about them from other passengers but they just sat there talking among themselves. It definitely could’ve been handled so much better imo, but the guy just couldn’t be reasoned with. Motherwell is the only station between Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Central they call at. Something doesn't add up to make it the innocent mistake you believed it to be. RE the ticket inspector not just having s word - Scotrail would get no money from their journey if they had a Cross Country ticket so can understand them not allowing them to travel on their ticket. That doesn't give him the right to confiscate the ticket though. That he did suggests maybe it was an old ticket and they were at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, ScottR96 said: It’s possible they got on a Cross Country train at Wishaw (no barriers) and bought a ticket on the train, as there’s no way they could’ve got on at Motherwell without a ticket. I assumed they got on at Motherwell as the guy was insisting that they got off there, but that could have been so they had no option but to buy another ticket. If that is the case then they’ve probably jumped on the first train they’ve seen headed for Glasgow not thinking anything of it and paid their money in good faith. Aye, he might have had previous with them but I didn’t get that impression. It looked to me like he’s just decided to throw the book at them. They weren’t being disruptive at any point either, I could maybe have seen his point if they were acting like dicks the whole journey, or had complaints about them from other passengers but they just sat there talking among themselves. It definitely could’ve been handled so much better imo, but the guy just couldn’t be reasoned with. Am I missing somethng here, but aren't tickets sold on the basis of any valid route? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Peil said: Am I missing somethng here, but aren't tickets sold on the basis of any valid route? We're pretty shielded from this up here due to Scotrail being the operator of almost every train, but no, not all tickets are valid on all trains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Todd_is_God said: We're pretty shielded from this up here due to Scotrail being the operator of almost every train, but no, not all tickets are valid on all trains. I genuinely did not know that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Peil said: I genuinely did not know that Most are, mind, but there are some that will state "Valid on xxx only" which are not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 All ScotRail services suspended over 80mph Storm Isha winds - BBC News WIND 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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