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Disruption is also expected to carry over into non-strike days during the week, when only about 60% of services are expected to run.

This is due to not enough staff being on shift overnight to get services ready for the following day.

 

This is complete fucking nonsense excuse and both NR and the syndicalist unions + striking workers should be hammered for this. 

If you're unable to provide a full service as contracted then that is also a strike day. 

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45 minutes ago, virginton said:

This is complete fucking nonsense excuse and both NR and the syndicalist unions + striking workers should be hammered for this. 

If you're unable to provide a full service as contracted then that is also a strike day. 

If your shift starts at 10pm the day of the strike you don't go in at a second past midnight.

They will have no nightshift so this seems unavoidable. 

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1 minute ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

The salary for a conductor is wild. £34k & final salary pension scheme. I’m assuming overtime pay if work a Sunday or additional hours. What’s the 5% commission? Commission on what exactly.

On train ticket sales.

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2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

On train ticket sales.

 

Bizarre - it’s not as if it’s a sales role. Commission on selling tickets (doing their job) to a captive market who don’t have a choice as to whether to buy or not & with no real scope for upselling.  Seems reasonable. Like Tesco employees getting a cut of a Mars bar they sell you.

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18 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

 

Bizarre - it’s not as if it’s a sales role. Commission on selling tickets (doing their job) to a captive market who don’t have a choice as to whether to buy or not & with no real scope for upselling.  Seems reasonable. Like Tesco employees getting a cut of a Mars bar they sell you.

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I suppose it's an encouragement to not just sit with the driver all day. I think there'll be a minimum performance/sales expectation.

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19 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

 

Bizarre - it’s not as if it’s a sales role. Commission on selling tickets (doing their job) to a captive market who don’t have a choice as to whether to buy or not & with no real scope for upselling.  Seems reasonable. Like Tesco employees getting a cut of a Mars bar they sell you.

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Well, it is in part a sales job, is it not? Lots of passengers board without tickets, particularly at unmanned stations, and it's the conductors job to get a fare out of them or else it is completely lost revenue. They could, in theory, not bother their arse but I imagine their takings/performance is monitored to some extent, and earning commission gives them the chance of a few extra quid come payday. There is also the potential to upsell to weekly/season tickets etc and therefore more in commission. 

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11 minutes ago, 'WellDel said:

Well, it is in part a sales job, is it not? Lots of passengers board without tickets, particularly at unmanned stations, and it's the conductors job to get a fare out of them or else it is completely lost revenue. They could, in theory, not bother their arse but I imagine their takings/performance is monitored to some extent, and earning commission gives them the chance of a few extra quid come payday. There is also the potential to upsell to weekly/season tickets etc and therefore more in commission. 

Not buying it mate. Does a bus driver take a commission if he charges people as opposed to letting them on for free? It’s the job to check tickets and charge people who don’t have one.

Just think the pay and conditions are very very good for what it is. 

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23 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

Just think the pay and conditions are very very good for what it is. 

Tbf that's kind of the point of the union, however their plans seem to be short term get as much as possible rather that realise in the next 20/30 years all the conductor jobs will be gone.

They must be one of the very few professions still on final salary, I wonder if they can access it before the state pension age whatever that is when they retire.

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