19QOS19 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Anyone that voted in the EU referendum based on what their trade union advised deserves all they are getting imo.Always think that when parties wheel out "celebrities" to encourage folk to vote for their party. If someone is basing their vote on what a minted celeb says then they shouldn't be allowed a fucking vote. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 No doubt the media are trying to find out the dirt on Mick Lynch and no doubt there will be stories in the next few days. Gone are the days when Rupert and Co could just openly hack your phone for some dirt, now they need to hide it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Pensioners are getting the rise across the board as that's the Tories' constituency. If they were worried about fairness, and only raising the incomes of those pensioners at the low end, they could surely look to increase the amount paid by way of pension credit and expand eligibility for it. Mick Lynch has performed really well in terms of media interviews and has likely bought more support for the workers. I still don't believe you can dish out public sector pay rises that match inflation when it is so far above the reasonable target but a rise of 5-6% should be possible. It also shouldn't be ignored that the reason some public sector workers are so exposed to the cost of living was the years of failing to match inflation with pay rises during the decade of austerity which was a total f**k up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: If they have to go into a care home, they become skint very quickly. There are plenty skint pensioners. There are not many skint trade union leaders or train drivers though. No, they're financially assessed. If they can't afford residential care, the state will pay for it. What they don't get to do is hold onto properties worth six figures, or fucktons of savings whilst the state pays hundreds/thousands per week for their care. I appreciate this results in massive tantrums from their sons and daughters who don't get to inherit their properties, which is of course a terrible fucking shame. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, betting competition said: I think Bow Crow will be looking down proud at how Mick Lynch dismantling any right-wing media interviewees and tory politicians. No doubt the media are trying to find out the dirt on Mick Lynch and no doubt there will be stories in the next few days. Bob Crow led a very ‘champagne socialist’ lifestyle. I well recall, a good few years ago getting on a Silver Seas cruise liner at Rio and a variety of passengers telling me just how boorish his behaviour was on the leg from Barbados to Rio where he disembarked. Apparently, he was drunk every night and caused a lot of problems with guests and crew. Obviously, this is all hearsay but I did hear this about him from other sources. He died quite soon afterwards with a lot of publicity and that is how I recalled what I had heard on the ship. He certainly could talk the socialist talk. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Bob Crow led a very ‘champagne socialist’ lifestyle. I well recall, a good few years ago getting on a Silver Seas cruise liner at Rio and a variety of passengers telling me just how boorish his behaviour was on the leg from Barbados to Rio where he disembarked. Apparently, he was drunk every night and caused a lot of problems with guests and crew. Obviously, this is all hearsay but I did hear this about him from other sources. He died quite soon afterwards with a lot of publicity and that is how I recalled what I had heard on the ship. He certainly could talk the socialist talk. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: No, they're financially assessed. If they can't afford residential care, the state will pay for it. What they don't get to do is hold onto properties worth six figures, or fucktons of savings whilst the state pays hundreds/thousands per week for their care. I appreciate this results in massive tantrums from their sons and daughters who don't get to inherit their properties, which is of course a terrible fucking shame. It is a terrible shame. Why would you punish people who have been prudent and aspirational? These properties have been bought with earnings that tax was paid on. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Bob Crow led a very ‘champagne socialist’ lifestyle. I well recall, a good few years ago getting on a Silver Seas cruise liner at Rio and a variety of passengers telling me just how boorish his behaviour was on the leg from Barbados to Rio where he disembarked. Apparently, he was drunk every night and caused a lot of problems with guests and crew. Obviously, this is all hearsay but I did hear this about him from other sources. He died quite soon afterwards with a lot of publicity and that is how I recalled what I had heard on the ship. He certainly could talk the socialist talk. As you well know Dawson, Bob Crow’s wealth and boorish behaviour will be perfect acceptable to the P and B denizens………because at least he wasn’t a toarree! -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1539867888563232768?t=tCZGhdIrYp7l4KXJ1Q4Wbg&s=19"From hero to zero"? f**k's sake, I know it's an expression but might he not for a second realise that the vast majority of people are neither? It's this sort of binary, partizan thinking that's running politics.Yours sincerely,Yer da. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFCinthearea Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Bob Crow led a very ‘champagne socialist’ lifestyle. I well recall, a good few years ago getting on a Silver Seas cruise liner at Rio and a variety of passengers telling me just how boorish his behaviour was on the leg from Barbados to Rio where he disembarked. Apparently, he was drunk every night and caused a lot of problems with guests and crew. Obviously, this is all hearsay but I did hear this about him from other sources. He died quite soon afterwards with a lot of publicity and that is how I recalled what I had heard on the ship. He certainly could talk the socialist talk. He also chose to live in a council house despite his £200k+salary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: "From hero to zero"? f**k's sake, I know it's an expression but might he not for a second realise that the vast majority of people are neither? It's this sort of binary, partizan thinking that's running politics. Yours sincerely, Yer da. Yeh I wouldn't have proceeded it for that tag line 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, FFCinthearea said: He also chose to live in a council house despite his £200k+salary. Taking an affordable home away from someone that needed it when he obviously didn't. Very socialist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 There's mintering afoot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Good quality social housing should be a right and not housing of last resort. There was a time when council housing was the housing of teachers, nurses and other professionals. My great grandad was deputy chief of police in Dundee and lived in a council house all his days. They used to be an income generator and subsidise other areas of the council as well as providing huge amount of jobs for the trades people that serviced them. The biggest cost for social housing now is the turnover of tenancies. Having generation's of stable employed families in council housing was a good thing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Good bit of this going about at the moment. Lovely to see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 49 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: It is a terrible shame. Why would you punish people who have been prudent and aspirational? These properties have been bought with earnings that tax was paid on. People with considerable assets and wealth are not being punished by being asked to pay for where they now live. 44 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: As you well know Dawson, Bob Crow’s wealth and boorish behaviour will be perfect acceptable to the P and B denizens………because at least he wasn’t a toarree! Yup, you're definitely a completely dippit, mintering c**t. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 54 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: It is a terrible shame. Why would you punish people who have been prudent and aspirational? These properties have been bought with earnings that tax was paid on. Who is punishing them? They are receiving a service and paying for it as they can afford to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Left Back said: Taking an affordable home away from someone that needed it when he obviously didn't. Very socialist. If he'd bought a house commensurate with that sort of salary you'd probably still be making snide comments about socialism Edited June 23, 2022 by Day of the Lords 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: If he'd bought a house commensurate with that sort of salary you'd probably still be making snide comments about socialism I've lost track now. What's the value and ownership structure of houses socialists are meant to live in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, hk blues said: Giving pensioners a rise of 10% and increasing welfare payments are not mutually exclusive, or at least needn't be. I don't recall many pensioners complaining about the injustice when a decade of austerity was imposed exclusively on the working age poor, disabled and their dependents since 2010 - while state spending on their welfare benefits was maintained at the same rate as before and triple-locked to inflation. Their political decisions in that decade certainly don't indicate their belief in your stance either. It's funny how the universal solidarity card only ever gets played when it's boomers on the receiving end of scrutiny and cutbacks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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