HibeeJibee Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I like the Challenge Cup. It provides the only realistic chance for part-time clubs to reach a Semi-final or Final, plus the only chance most clubs have to win a national cup... I thought it was a good idea to invite the Highland and Lowland champions in to make a round 32 in R1, and it was a good idea to regionalise R2 (on midweek) in the same way as R1... It had a bit of a niche in the market with R1 opening the season and QFs > SFs > Finals held on international weekends. That said I didn't think it was good when they moved the Final back to April. I don't mind the idea of adding more Highland and Lowland clubs, plus that could see some more variety... I'm not a fan of adding Irish or Welsh clubs, certainly not their weaker teams and certainly not entering at a later stage than actual SPFL members... I find the whole idea of putting 'B' teams into a first-class cup competition unwelcome. I can't beleieve that the clubs outside the top division would go for this, and if it came from a committee, surely the clubs themselves would be entitled to a vote on it if they strongly disagreed, since it would be changing the rules of a competition. I'm not that keen on the new league cup format, but OK, it isn't completely ridiculous and is worth a shot to see how it goes. This though, if it is seriously to happen, is without doubt the worst attempt at restructure of a league or cup I have ever heard of. Someone can check SPFL rulebooks on their website, but it's almost certainly like League Cup i.e. set by SPFL Board, not AGM vote. That last picture has made me change my mind actually. That is fantastic. Don't get too excited: their floodlights are retractable as they interfere with the landing approach. Evening game presumably means no flights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Any cross-border competition that doesn't include the top teams from each country is an idiotic idea. Rhyl vs Forfar or Coleraine vs Alloa? Utter drivel. If you're inviting Under 20 sides then you might as well just ditch the competition completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Imagine a Northern Irish team and a Welsh team contesting the Final ... we'd be as well just packing everything away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidAl Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I take it they're still scrambling for a sponsor to finance this nonsense, which is why there has been radio silence on the plans for months. It sounds absolutely shite in every single way and I hope supporters boycott this competition. There must be another bookies that they can find somewhere who'll sponsor it, surely?! It wouldn't surprise me if it's going to be used to set a precedent for bringing B teams into the main competitions - specifically, the League proper. And the argument will be that it's to help our youngsters develop by playing against senior pros, which is reasonable enough. I don't mind the idea though: it's more interesting than the soul-less, missed opportunity that the Challenge Cup has been until now. It should have been the national competition for league and non-league part-timers only; it's just a second-rate consolation cup without any real identity as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 There must be another bookies that they can find somewhere who'll sponsor it, surely?! It wouldn't surprise me if it's going to be used to set a precedent for bringing B teams into the main competitions - specifically, the League proper. And the argument will be that it's to help our youngsters develop by playing against senior pros, which is reasonable enough a load of bollocks. fixed. Otherwise, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I take it they're still scrambling for a sponsor to finance this nonsense, which is why there has been radio silence on the plans for months. It sounds absolutely shite in every single way and I hope supporters boycott this competition. I'll certainly be boycotting it if these plans are true, what an absolute shambles. Whoever is behind it, Doncaster no doubt, should get their jotters for even coming up with the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 It wouldn't surprise me if it's going to be used to set a precedent for bringing B teams into the main competitions - specifically, the League proper. And the argument will be that it's to help our youngsters develop by playing against senior pros, which is reasonable enough. I have a system for that which is better than b teams, what we should do is allow clubs with talented youngsters who aren't yet good enough for their 1st teams to rent the services of these players to other clubs who do consider then good enough. These clubs will then play these players in competive games alongside senior pros and against other senior players, introducing them to the do or die nature of first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilky1878 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I have a system for that which is better than b teams, what we should do is allow clubs with talented youngsters who aren't yet good enough for their 1st teams to rent the services of these players to other clubs who do consider then good enough. These clubs will then play these players in competive games alongside senior pros and against other senior players, introducing them to the do or die nature of first team football. Nah don't think that'll work mate, not the same as playing for the mighty rangers b or the glorious celtic b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Just struck me that this would also mean the possibility of ties likes Aberdeen 'B'/Dundee 'B' v Dundee United... Hibs v Hearts 'B'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersRyan084 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Wait... so our under 20's can defend our title next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbsouth Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Any idea who the Welsh and Irish teams are yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Any idea who the Welsh and Irish teams are yet?Welsh B and Noirn Oirish B I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Just struck me that this would also mean the possibility of ties likes Aberdeen 'B'/Dundee 'B' v Dundee United... Hibs v Hearts 'B'... Any idea who the Welsh and Irish teams are yet? As mentioned on an earlier page - if as reported they'd be the highest non-European qualifiers, those would be: Coleraine, Glentoran, Newtown, Airbus UK Broughton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 We haven't got a reserve or under 20 squad. Can the fans play instead? Excellent idea. You should be SPFL CEO with this quality of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPStu Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Why bring in Irish and Welsh teams? Will we get to play in their tournaments as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Excellent idea. You should be SPFL CEO with this quality of thinking.I agree it would cover the cost of travel as well, I'm guessing everyone would pay £150 to play in a competitive match for their team and that would easily pay for the bus to Wales.I'm well up for strutting my stuff* infront of 150 hardcore Welsh football fans. *Limping off after 17 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 could we play the Welsh team in Swansea? a weekend with Swansea women.... *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 As mentioned on an earlier page - if as reported they'd be the highest non-European qualifiers, those would be: Coleraine, Glentoran, Newtown, Airbus UK Broughton How many teams is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 As mentioned on an earlier page - if as reported they'd be the highest non-European qualifiers, those would be: Coleraine, Glentoran, Newtown, Airbus UK Broughton How many teams is this?Six.UK away please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Can I be the first to ask if they park the Airbus ? Try the veal etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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