Glenconner Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 care to explain how? It's a wind up Andy. You go and watch all the diddy teams you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Nope, They bullshitted everyone about an eco friendly 6500 seater that would open within a year of promotion. The fact no plans were ever presented should've been the alarm bells. Like RG, I only have sympathy for the true fans, not the glory hunters, the mercenaries who were paid ridiculous sums and then moaned at being made redundant, or the Mileson family. I'm sure his estate was settled with debts of almost half a million There couldn't have been that many true fans pre the millionaire arriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Second Andy Goram Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's a wind up Andy. You go and watch all the diddy teams you want. Fair enough. That pish usually is serious from some c***s. Ye got me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Second Andy Goram Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 There couldn't have been that many true fans pre the millionaire arriving. Got over 500 for a match against ICT in 2003. More than they got when both were in the SPL which is quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 His family thought the Gretna story was nuts. Their eyes were quite rightly on his fortune. Think he was spending something 5 grand a week on something that had a smaller potential fan base than East Stirling. They would have been spending a lot more than £5k per week. In his first season when they were beaten to promotion by Stirling and Stranraer from the 3rd division they were reputed to have a wage bill of £500k to put it in perspective Cowden's was around £50k. As someone else mentioned I think his master plan was to get Carlisle United in the Scottish League through the back door they dropped down to the Conference but managed to get back into the Football League had they been stuck there I think he would have made a take over bid at Brunton Park and merged them with Gretna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Was there any money ever spent on Gretna's ground? Nope,What about that big f**k off stand behind the goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 What about that big f**k off stand behind the goals? Did they not get that 2nd hand from an English club? Could be talking nonsense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 They would have been spending a lot more than £5k per week. In his first season when they were beaten to promotion by Stirling and Stranraer from the 3rd division they were reputed to have a wage bill of £500k to put it in perspective Cowden's was around £50k. As someone else mentioned I think his master plan was to get Carlisle United in the Scottish League through the back door they dropped down to the Conference but managed to get back into the Football League had they been stuck there I think he would have made a take over bid at Brunton Park and merged them with Gretna. Cowdenbeath spend £50,000 a season on wages!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Players and staff were paid but they left a trail of debt for years before going bust. The thread on here at the time included a mug Morton supporter who did work and never got paid. I think he was involved in the eco-stadium design. It could have been built with ice cream and cotton wool, it was so far removed from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Players and staff were paid but they left a trail of debt for years before going bust. The thread on here at the time included a mug Morton supporter who did work and never got paid. I think he was involved in the eco-stadium design. It could have been built with ice cream and cotton wool, it was so far removed from reality. The Eco stadium forgot all about that. ETA - From memory did Brooks Milesons son not look like Craigy Whyte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeen-Warrior Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 If that's his boy there then I'd say he looks like a goofy(er) leigh Griffiths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Was there any money ever spent on Gretna's ground? To a limited extent. There was a big "temporary" golf course type stand erected behind one of the goals and a smaller temporary stand banged alongside the old main stand on the side. They also cleared the end behind the other goal and seeded it in grass as part of a longer term aim to move the pitch in that direction a bit to build a proper stand behind the other end but it never happened. I had the Club that Vanished on my Sky+ box for months after it was broadcast but I deleted it a month or two back to make room for the Star Wars movies my son wanted stored! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Players and staff were paid but they left a trail of debt for years before going bust. The thread on here at the time included a mug Morton supporter who did work and never got paid. I think he was involved in the eco-stadium design. It could have been built with ice cream and cotton wool, it was so far removed from reality. That was Alibi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesc Fabregas Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 The documentary was pretty decent but it was too keen to buy into the tired "fairy tale" of the club's rise through the divisions, the cup final appearance and their promotion to the SPL. It wasn't critical enough about the way the club was run or if anyone knew if the foundations were built on sand. It didn't really go into the breakdown between Alexander and Irons either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 If that's his boy there then I'd say he looks like a goofy(er) leigh Griffiths I must be thinking of someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesc Fabregas Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I must be thinking of someone else. No, that's Craig Mileson in the photo - you're right, he could be Craig Whyte's brother. Don't think he looks like Leigh Griffiths at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 There was a photo of Craig Mileson floating around (possibly around 2012) where they looked similar. I was sure of it so cheers for confirming I'm not going crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 There couldn't have been that many true fans pre the millionaire arriving. They averaged 150 before him, and have returned to roughly the same figure. So thats a good guestimate of how many were "true" fans. It was also £4m worth of debt they left, apparently most owed to local businesses. Sky deciding to fondle their balls and tell us all its how small town clubs should act to "live the dream" is completely destructive and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 The documentary was pretty decent but it was too keen to buy into the tired "fairy tale" of the club's rise through the divisions, the cup final appearance and their promotion to the SPL. It wasn't critical enough about the way the club was run or if anyone knew if the foundations were built on sand. It didn't really go into the breakdown between Alexander and Irons either. They were still pendling the "Living the Dream" pish and never got down to how they ran up £4m worth of debt. Davie Irons was really cringeworthy in it with his love of Brookes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I can mind Irons when he was manager of Annan in eos league. He had a face to face confrontation with one of our elderly followers. Our elderly fan had his glasses removed from his face and stood on by the man. Kinda sums him up imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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