lionel hutz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 It's weird to think that a fairly small airport (only one terminal) has passenger numbers that are double the population of Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 On Passenger Numbers: (Jan 15-16) Edinburgh - 11,188,204 - International Glasgow - 8,774,297 - International Aberdeen - 3,425,972 - International Inverness - 665,385 - International Prestwick - 609,511 - International Sumburgh - 268,939 - International (Bergen only) Scatsta - 246,251 - Private Flights only Kirkwall - 149,346 - Domestic only Stornoway - 124280 - Domestic only Benbecula - 32,081 - Domestic only Dundee was 13th with 22,219 but will probably be 10th next year With FlyBE being the closest thing we have to a national airline, it's very impressive that Scotland's top ten airports (none of which have more than one terminal- GLA doesn't count) can have 25 million passengers in 2015. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 £63 return for flights to Amsterdam in June with 10kg Hand Luggage. Can't pass that up, looking forward to it. As people have said, hopefully it might be the start of something. Could be the start of something I guess. I'm not up on the capacity for distance of these plane. Could Brussels, Copenhagen, Oslo or Hamburg be viable with these planes? (That's just based on a quick look at a map and thinking they're not that much further than Amsterdam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrdavidson95 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Sumburgh - 268,939 - International (Bergen only) Scatsta - 246,251 - Private Flights only These are fairly deceptive though, they're pretty much all oil charters with Eastern Airways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It's not package holiday / charter flights. The flights will be a mix of Scots and Dutch. Hopefully Flybe strikes up a codeshare with KLM, it will help for connecting flights st Schiphol. Schiphols my favourite airport, go through it a lot and rarely have a problem. Connection times are always decent from Edinburgh, if the flight times from Dundee are decent then it could work out really well. Someone mentioned Dublin, that'd be a decent flight for connecting flights to North America Big savings on Air Passenger Duty too! Iceland could be another option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 KLM are starting Inverness Dam flights after the success of Flybe, haven't found any good deals on connecting flights yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 FWIW, flights to Dublin from Dundee would be fantastic. Would be great for flights to America. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 FWIW, flights to Dublin from Dundee would be fantastic. Would be great for flights to America. From what I've read Dublin is the other major international route HIAL want to establish, it's just about getting the right airline (Aer Lingus or FlyBE) to do so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) From what I've read Dublin is the other major international route HIAL want to establish, it's just about getting the right airline (Aer Lingus or FlyBE) to do so. If it's anything like Inverness it will be Flybe to Dublin, Belfast and Jersey, and the odd holiday charter to Switzerland and Italy. P.S. As you're a lot closer to Edinburgh Airport you might get less than Inverness despite a higher population nearby. What would be great if we could get a few more International destinations by flights from Inverness stopping to fill up the plane in Dundee on route. Not sure if the added fuel costs would allow that. Edited February 29, 2016 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Be great if the return flight went onwards to Humberside. That would cause panic on the streets, mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) £63 return for flights to Amsterdam in June with 10kg Hand Luggage. Can't pass that up, looking forward to it. As people have said, hopefully it might be the start of something. Could be the start of something I guess. I'm not up on the capacity for distance of these plane. Could Brussels, Copenhagen, Oslo or Hamburg be viable with these planes? (That's just based on a quick look at a map and thinking they're not that much further than Amsterdam. The Q400 (the aircraft that is doing the AMS flight) has a range of 2,500km which in theory could go from Dundee to St Petersburg. Or any place in the green circle (see link), though from Dundee, I think Helsinki would be it's limit. https://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm?clat=56.452436&clng=-3.023536&r=2300&lc=FFFFFF&lw=1&fc=00FF00&mt=r&fs=true Edited February 29, 2016 by Marr1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrdavidson95 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 The Q400 (the aircraft that is doing the AMS flight) has a range of 2,500km which in theory could go from Dundee to St Petersburg. Or any place in the green circle (see link), though from Dundee, I think Helsinki would be it's limit. https://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm?clat=56.452436&clng=-3.023536&r=2300&lc=FFFFFF&lw=1&fc=00FF00&mt=r&fs=true The take off run at MTOW is 1402m, the TORA (take-off run available) at Dundee is 1319m, so I think there'll be a payload restriction on the Q400 to get off the ground, so 2500km is maybe optimistic. At the minute Dundee-Stansted flights are operating below the 50% load factor (I think its operating around 15 pax per flight), and normally thats what is needed to keep a route running albeit without a PSO subsidy. Dundee is just too close to Edinburgh to be properly feasible, I fear - like Prestwick is to Glasgow. Its the same with an argument for a national airline. Globespan and before that Air Scotland showed that it wasn't doable. Its a great idea but their isn't enough demand. In saying that, Sturgeon Airways has a nice ring to it, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 The take off run at MTOW is 1402m, the TORA (take-off run available) at Dundee is 1319m, so I think there'll be a payload restriction on the Q400 to get off the ground, so 2500km is maybe optimistic. I did put the radius on the map to 2,300km which is slightly more realistic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Sturgeon Airways has a nice ring to it, no? Whoa...I'm going to Benbecula... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Globespan was a success that got fucked by a dodgy credit card clearing company. They only really catered for the point to point holiday flights, same as Air Scotland but they really were a fuckin joke of an airline. If Scotland was to have its own airline, it'd basically have to be an extension of Loganair that would serve European and North American destinations like Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Paris and Toronto, Boston, New York... Maybe with the forthcoming APD cut, a Scottish enterprise might look into this as a venture worth trying. P and B Airlines? #IfWeAllChipInATenner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrdavidson95 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 P and B Airlines? #IfWeAllChipInATenner I'll be a pilot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Globespan was a success that got fucked by a dodgy credit card clearing company. They only really catered for the point to point holiday flights, same as Air Scotland but they really were a fuckin joke of an airline. If Scotland was to have its own airline, it'd basically have to be an extension of Loganair that would serve European and North American destinations like Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Paris and Toronto, Boston, New York... Maybe with the forthcoming APD cut, a Scottish enterprise might look into this as a venture worth trying. An APD cut should make a massive difference to inward tourist business. It would also make air travel within the UK more competitive with rail. There should no need for a Government-funded airline as the existing airlines would operate more flights to meet the increased demand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Worth mentioning that Dundee - Stansted flights are also on sale £59 one way Edited March 6, 2016 by Marr1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Just Read that FlyBE are now doing Aberdeen - Newquay starting in May.Wouldn't imagine there's much demand for that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Flights starting next year from Inverness to Majorca with First Choice and Thomson. Only for 6 weeks starting in June though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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