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This, we could have left Hampden that day with a tanking of a score line against us. The 2 relegations don't really matter here. Reid was successful at this level and unsuccessful at the level above. He should make Stranraer competitive in League 1, but that's all they'll do. A Brechin/Forfar type club. Aitken was Stranraers opportunity to go up and once he jumped ship, that was that.

Reid had us punching below our weight and established us in the league below where we should have been. Stranraer are a third tier side so he will have his work cut out keeping them above their natural level. To be fair Reid should have put him out his misery much earlier but it was apparent Cameron learned little by appointing Roberts. His record at Ayr is helped by the DL cash situation , Roberts ability and the lack of a competent manager since McLeod. It speaks volumes for Reids ability that he was reliant on a committee sneaking him in via the backdoor to get another job in Scottish football.

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Reid had us punching below our weight and established us in the league below where we should have been. Stranraer are a third tier side so he will have his work cut out keeping them above their natural level. To be fair Reid should have put him out his misery much earlier but it was apparent Cameron learned little by appointing Roberts. His record at Ayr is helped by the DL cash situation , Roberts ability and the lack of a competent manager since McLeod. It speaks volumes for Reids ability that he was reliant on a committee sneaking him in via the backdoor to get another job in Scottish football.

Reid had us punching below our weight and established us in the league below where we should have been. Stranraer are a third tier side so he will have his work cut out keeping them above their natural level. To be fair Reid should have put him out his misery much earlier but it was apparent Cameron learned little by appointing Roberts. His record at Ayr is helped by the DL cash situation , Roberts ability and the lack of a competent manager since McLeod. It speaks volumes for Reids ability that he was reliant on a committee sneaking him in via the backdoor to get another job in Scottish football.

Not having a dig ,but for a few years now Ayr has been below Championship standard, but should always be near, and def should always be in playoffs, and if promoted would find it hard to survive in that league, unless a sugar daddy wants to pump money in. They do still get some players signed that could maybe be of championship standard, but you need a squad of these guys to compete week in and out. And as for Stranraer we have been punching above our weight. but we are enjoying it.

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A sugar daddy isn't needed, Alloa, Cowdenbeath and Dumbarton have survived. The difference from when they were there and us was a capable manager.

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A sugar daddy isn't needed, Alloa, Cowdenbeath and Dumbarton have survived. The difference from when they were there and us was a capable manager.

Nope don't agree there, you have had some managers who had been successful in other posts. But ever since Mr Barr's money left, it's been nearly all downhill.

Take a look at leagues in Britain you could nearly put £ signs next to position in League. Don't know about Cowdenbeath but can tell you both Alloa and Dumbarton not short of money, and bigger wage bill than Ayr.

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Nope don't agree there, you have had some managers who had been successful in other posts. But ever since Mr Barr's money left, it's been nearly all downhill.Take a look at leagues in Britain you could nearly put £ signs next to position in League. Don't know about Cowdenbeath but can tell you both Alloa and Dumbarton not short of money, and bigger wage bill than Ayr.

Obviously they have a bigger wage bill, they are earning more money in a higher league. What they have manager to do, with Ian Murray and Paul Hartley, was bring in the players. Look at Alloa now, lost the manager and are slowly coming back down. Cowden lost the players and came back down, although it may have been avoided had their board acted.

If McCall takes us up, it'd probably be the toughest league we'd have had in the Champiobship and I'd reckon it is the best chance we'd have had to stay there.

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Neil Watt is the only manager who had been "successfull" we've had and he ballsed it up himself with his signings. We usually promoted managers within the club.

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Obviously they have a bigger wage bill, they are earning more money in a higher league. What they have manager to do, with Ian Murray and Paul Hartley, was bring in the players. Look at Alloa now, lost the manager and are slowly coming back down. Cowden lost the players and came back down, although it may have been avoided had their board acted.

If McCall takes us up, it'd probably be the toughest league we'd have had in the Champiobship and I'd reckon it is the best chance we'd have had to stay there.

McCall good manager but ,you need more investment to sustain. Edited by thomas 62

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I'd be a bit concerned for Stranraer's budget if we go up this season. That's 8 or 9 hundred away fans we've brought to Stair Park this year, possibly being replaced by Alloa or Livi. Probably 10k of income disappearing from the club right there.

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I'd be a bit concerned for Stranraer's budget if we go up this season. That's 8 or 9 hundred away fans we've brought to Stair Park this year, possibly being replaced by Alloa or Livi. Probably 10k of income disappearing from the club right there.

Lucky we've got a money-spinning tie with Celtic to tide us over!

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Neil Watt is the only manager who had been "successfull" we've had and he ballsed it up himself with his signings. We usually promoted managers within the club.[/quot

Campbell Money league and challenge cup winning manager until he came to Ayr, you forget about him?

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Neil Watt is the only manager who had been "successfull" we've had and he ballsed it up himself with his signings. We usually promoted managers within the club.[/quotCampbell Money league and challenge cup winning manager until he came to Ayr, you forget about him?

Money is probably a decent manager but his timing was lousy coming to Ayr as the large volumes of cash being invested were turned off and our state of finances meant it was going to be a tough job for anyone. Maybe Stranraer should be tempting him to return as it would increase your chances of avoiding the drop.

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In the reid era against hibs in the cup who is it that turns the defender one way then another and scores ,is it roberts

Yep, when he was likeable.

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Neil Watt is the only manager who had been "successfull" we've had and he ballsed it up himself with his signings. We usually promoted managers within the club.

Probably difficult for Watt to succeed at Ayr given that he had a lower playing budget than at Stranraer.

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If Roberts was to return with Clyde or whoever, he would get a round of appliance from me. Fantastic player, not for lack of trying that he was a shite manager.

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What appliances would YOU throw at Mark Roberts.

I would throw a freshly boiled kettle.

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