Big Fifer Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 What 'qualification' is it ? A drivers license I'd guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 A drivers license I'd guess. I'm fairly sure the highway code wouldn't cover it (although it's a bloody long time since I sat my test) It's just one of those driving etiquette things - like when you reward someone for letting you through a gap by squeezing past with one hand off the steering wheel and waving whilst looking at them rather than the road ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 What 'qualification' is it ? Grade A Kunt by the sounds of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm fairly sure the highway code wouldn't cover it (although it's a bloody long time since I sat my test) It's just one of those driving etiquette things - like when you reward someone for letting you through a gap by squeezing past with one hand off the steering wheel and waving whilst looking at them rather than the road ahead. It's not etiquette though, it's classic sheep behaviour. If everyone moves over early, it simply pulls back the pinch point and increases the length of the queue. Whereas if both lanes are filled and merge-in-turn is adopted at the closure, you split the queue over two lanes and keep traffic moving further back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Heard Kincardine Bridge is open for all traffic on weekends now. Will that be better for driving from Edinburgh to Dundee Sunday morning instead of M9 to Dunblane then A90 to Perth? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 It's not etiquette though, it's classic sheep behaviour. If everyone moves over early, it simply pulls back the pinch point and increases the length of the queue. Whereas if both lanes are filled and merge-in-turn is adopted at the closure, you split the queue over two lanes and keep traffic moving further back. Aye but folk don't let those that cruise to the end in and it starts to snarl up, or those nipping in late cause other drivers to brake and the effect 'concertinas' back through the line of traffic causing stoppages. I seem to have spent half my life in roadworks and the ones that move the smoothest are the ones where folk move over early. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ignore SSD, he's talking pish. Northbound has been an absolute doddle all week. Your quickest route to Dundee would be over the Clacks Bridge to Gartarry Roundabout then take the A977 to Kinross and join the M90. Bollocks. Northbound has been a doddle all week. The police have been doing a good job keeping the traffic flowing and it's only taken me maybe two minutes longer than usual on the bridge approach road. Shite. I picked the wee one up from nursery in Larbert at half three this afternoon. Traffic around the bridge was a fucking nightmare. Took me an hour to get home to Polmont. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Sounds like you want a weird way to get back to Polmont? Larbert Day Nursery your weans in?? My wife used to be a Nursery Teacher in there before transferring.Joined the motorway at Torwood, thinking the traffic wouldn't be so bad Eastbound. Was a nightmare. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Avoid.. !! The Clacks and Kincardine Bridges have been rammed all week all the time. I have to go over one of them every day and its choca whatever the time so continue on the M9 past the prudential cut off at Stirling then join the A90 dual carriageway at the Keir roundabout near Dunblane I'm afraid that's pish, The Clacks has been fine each of the last three mornings heading south about 8.20 or so. Northbound it's obviously busy heading home in the evening but it's not a nightmare. I had a half day today and scooted across with no delay whatsoever. Edit: actually, it's maybe just been the last two mornings it's been fine. In any event, it's definitely getting better. Obviously traffic is heavier than usual but it's not the nightmare that some are making out. At least not all the time. Edited December 11, 2015 by Pull My Strings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Three hours twenty minutes to Palmerston earlier, two hours dead coming home. I'm not going to complain about the bridge closure but the fucking mess in the middle with all the road works (average speed 50 section) what a f**k up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 My wife used to be a Nursery Teacher in there before transferring. Didn't realise you were married. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Three hours twenty minutes to Palmerston earlier, two hours dead coming home. I'm not going to complain about the bridge closure but the fucking mess in the middle with all the road works (average speed 50 section) what a f**k up. M8/M73/M74? Absolute disaster area, Raith interchange at Bothwell is a nightmare. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Anymore input whether I'm better going from here to Dundee via Kincardine or past Stirling tomorrow morning at about 10.30? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Anymore input whether I'm better going from here to Dundee via Kincardine or past Stirling tomorrow morning at about 10.30? The bridges should be fine at that hour of the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Why did they never build a tunnel under the Forth? A 1 mile undersea section, surely that could have been built when, for example, the Channel Tunnel has a 23.5 mile undersea section. Edit to add: According to the link an immersed tube tunnel (ITT) could have been built for £450m. New Queensferry Crossing budget is about £1.4 billion. http://www.howeweb.talktalk.net/tag/tunnels.htm Edited December 12, 2015 by FlyerTon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Why did they never build a tunnel under the Forth? A 1 mile undersea section, surely that could have been built when, for example, the Channel Tunnel has a 23.5 mile undersea section. Edit to add: According to the link an immersed tube tunnel (ITT) could have been built for £450m. New Queensferry Crossing budget is about £1.4 billion. http://www.howeweb.talktalk.net/tag/tunnels.htm A very cursory reading of that link suggests the argument for a tunnel may have been overstated. For example the £450M is for the tunnel only, i.e. it doesn't include the roads or other infrastructure. It also suggests that a new bridge will take 12 years to build. I've no axe to grind either way but the most obvious answer to why a bridge rather than a tunnel is that a bridge is the better solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Well thanks for that whining irrelevant little whimsy, but don't try be a smart arse if you're going to take stupid routes home. Billy Dynamite was talking about crossing in the morning, which I have done every day this week during peak times. Very little delays at all given the increased volume of traffic. I'd imagine Sunday morning will also be a bit quieter. Southbound coming from Fife has been very busy mind you, as has the bridge in general in the afternoons. Given the well documented traffic and delays, I'd say it was bound to be "a fucking nightmare" if you're going to take that bizarre route from Larbert to Polmont. Surely from Larbert you'd have been much quicker going via Stenhousemuir to Carronshore, Skinflats and Grangemouth, or Stenhousemuir, Bainsford, round by Bankside and up by the Falkirk Stadium? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 ^^^^^^Mark Benton just got rattled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Given the well documented traffic and delays, I'd say it was bound to be "a fucking nightmare" if you're going to take that bizarre route from Larbert to Polmont. Surely from Larbert you'd have been much quicker going via Stenhousemuir to Carronshore, Skinflats and Grangemouth, or Stenhousemuir, Bainsford, round by Bankside and up by the Falkirk Stadium? Only if there was not one single other car out on the road. However, usually, either of those routes is polluted by Falkirk's "drive at 25mph and like a complete walloper" club. Motorway is better, for Larbert to Grangemouth or Polmont. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 http://wingsoverscotland.com/look-on-down-from-the-bridge/ Obviously WoS should be read with a critical eye, but some food for thought for the screeds of morons blaming the incumbent government for the long-term failure of infrastructure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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