Antlion Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I sincerely hope that's not the case. It would be disgraceful if the SNP did that. We can and will win the next referendum without resorting to disgusting tactics such as that. It's not going to happen. Everyone who makes a life in Scotland will get a vote again (unlike the way the UK will be running its EU referendum). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 It's not going to happen. Everyone who makes a life in Scotland will get a vote again (unlike the way the UK will be running its EU referendum). Yes that is the way it should be. If you have chosen to work and live here then you get a vote. The way the UK is going about the EU referendum is poor. I am interested in what the next better together campaign will focus on in the lead up to the inevitable 2nd independence referendum, be it 5, 10, 15 years from now(2021 is my guess). They can hardly tell us 'You'll get more powers and we really mean it this time'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Yes that is the way it should be. If you have chosen to work and live here then you get a vote. The way the UK is going about the EU referendum is poor. I am interested in what the next better together campaign will focus on in the lead up to the inevitable 2nd independence referendum, be it 5, 10, 15 years from now(2021 is my guess). They can hardly tell us 'You'll get more powers and we really mean it this time'. Any promise of more powers will be met with derision. This was their opportunity to deliver maximum devolution and they rejected it as simply not possible - they are claiming that the Scotland Bill is the best settlement. Offering more powers in the future will reveal their claims now and during the last campaign to have been lies. I'm more interested in who will front a second BT campaign. Labour's Scottish big hitters have been thrown on to the scrap heap or willingly ran away in the hope of preferment in the House of Lords). The branch office is populated by absolute disasters who can barely beat the Tories (who remain stagnant). I've long thought that "No" won partially because the majority of Scots had faith in and loyalty to Labour. The party was believed and listened to. Then (out of self interest in the belief that Scotland was a Labour stronghold) it decided to do the work of Cameron and fight for a "No" vote. In so doing, it called a large section of Scots a "virus", delighted in the opportunity to "bayonet" them and told us we were too poor, stupid and weak a nation to govern ourselves. As a result of the unforeseen aftermath, Labour have been gutted in Scotland, and the "friendly" (or rather non-Tory) face of unionism is dying with them. Edited November 28, 2015 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 This is a disagreement I had with my sister the other week. I said that by the time the next referendum is called it will probably be time to vote Yes, whereas my wee sister says she would never vote for Scottish independence under any circumstances. I don't really see there being much of a campaign next time. Once Sturgeon or whoever else knows they have a healthy enough lead in the polls they'll just call a referendum on a few months notice and get it out the way. No point having another 3 year long campaign to rehash the same arguments 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I sincerely hope that's not the case. It would be disgraceful if the SNP did that. We can and will win the next referendum without resorting to disgusting tactics such as that. Now thats a tactic that has "Nationalism" written all over it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiltrum Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Alex. Were you sleeping by any Chance!!!!! (Alec) from the NO camp NO doubt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Now thats a tactic that has "Nationalism" written all over it. He's just copying the ethnic nationalists in the Tory cabinet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Any promise of more powers will be met with derision. This was their opportunity to deliver maximum devolution and they rejected it as simply not possible - they are claiming that the Scotland Bill is the best settlement. Offering more powers in the future will reveal their claims now and during the last campaign to have been lies. I'm more interested in who will front a second BT campaign. Labour's Scottish big hitters have been thrown on to the scrap heap or willingly ran away in the hope of preferment in the House of Lords). The branch office is populated by absolute disasters who can barely beat the Tories (who remain stagnant). I've long thought that "No" won partially because the majority of Scots had faith in and loyalty to Labour. The party was believed and listened to. Then (out of self interest in the belief that Scotland was a Labour stronghold) it decided to do the work of Cameron and fight for a "No" vote. In so doing, it called a large section of Scots a "virus", delighted in the opportunity to "bayonet" them and told us we were too poor, stupid and weak a nation to govern ourselves. As a result of the unforeseen aftermath, Labour have been gutted in Scotland, and the "friendly" (or rather non-Tory) face of unionism is dying with them. Blair McDougall again? He seems to think he did a grand job last time, the smug tw*t. Yeah i agree with your final paragraph but would add the yes campaign left themselves open to attack with the currency union/plan b carry on. I would like to see a stronger economic case put forward and less Tommy Sheridan in any future campaigns. As an aside, I believe that Labour are completely finished now in Scotland(as a major force anyway). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 He's just copying the ethnic nationalists in the Tory cabinet.Monkey see monkey do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I sincerely hope that's not the case. It would be disgraceful if the SNP did that. We can and will win the next referendum without resorting to disgusting tactics such as that. You got it correct obviously redrob doesn't do sarcasm then somehow linked it to being anti english 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 This is a disagreement I had with my sister the other week. I said that by the time the next referendum is called it will probably be time to vote Yes, whereas my wee sister says she would never vote for Scottish independence under any circumstances. I don't really see there being much of a campaign next time. Once Sturgeon or whoever else knows they have a healthy enough lead in the polls they'll just call a referendum on a few months notice and get it out the way. No point having another 3 year long campaign to rehash the same arguments Your little sister is a fanny. Pie. Boot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I see that Alec salmond. used the portrait to reserve his seat in the commons today. #sumboi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I see that Alec salmond. used the portrait to reserve his seat in the commons today. #sumboi Who? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 See thread title. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Oh aye it should of course be Alick Salmond.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 An innocent man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Merry Christmas! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 notwithstanding the lower case "s", why did the OP assume that Salmond must be spelling his first name with a "c" and not the much more common and correct "x" ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 What ever happened to @Loondave1 That avatar was something else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeloon Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, welshbairn said: Merry Christmas! That's the women Kirstene replaced in the Scottish Conservative Party, odious creature she was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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