djchapsticks Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I'm going to end my first week around £170 up. Not bad going but I'm going to have to start mugging soon as I've mainly been sticking to startup offers and reloads from bookies that I've already been with long term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumbartonTheSons Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Been reading this with interest for a while... Excuse my ignorance, but what are 'reloads'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Been reading this with interest for a while... Excuse my ignorance, but what are 'reloads'? Reloads are offers that aren't signups, basically they are your source of ongoing income once signups are done. For example, during December WH are doing an offer that if you place £20 on any televised Premier League match, you get £10 free bet in play. This is a reload and they're worth about £6-8 profit a pop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Reloads are offers that aren't signups, basically they are your source of ongoing income once signups are done. For example, during December WH are doing an offer that if you place £20 on any televised Premier League match, you get £10 free bet in play. This is a reload and they're worth about £6-8 profit a pop. Explain please? I assume you mean Back the enhanced offer then lay? - Does that not mean you then sit back & hope the event DOES happen?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Explain please? I assume you mean Back the enhanced offer then lay? - Does that not mean you then sit back & hope the event DOES happen?? No. It means it doesn't matter. For example, I had a £25 free bet with Boylesport yesterday, with which I backed Watford at 4.0 (3/1). I then laid them off at odds of 4.1 on BetFair, there is a calculator on the site that lets you figure out to the penny, how much you have to lay off and your liability (how much you'll end up paying out) which meant that no matter the outcome, I'd be £17.40 up. The only variable in the circumstance would be what account it ends up in (in this case, Boylesport) A week ago this would have confused all hell out of me, but the site is very helpful with it's tutorial videos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumbartonTheSons Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 No. It means it doesn't matter. For example, I had a £25 free bet with Boylesport yesterday, with which I backed Watford at 4.0 (3/1). I then laid them off at odds of 4.1 on BetFair, there is a calculator on the site that lets you figure out to the penny, how much you have to lay off and your liability (how much you'll end up paying out) which meant that no matter the outcome, I'd be £17.40 up. The only variable in the circumstance would be what account it ends up in (in this case, Boylesport) A week ago this would have confused all hell out of me, but the site is very helpful with it's tutorial videos. Hi. Which site is it you use for the tutorial videos? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Hi. Which site is it you use for the tutorial videos? Profit Accumulator. Costs £23 a month to sign up, but from what I've seen, it's worth it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 How much did you lay Watford for? I can't remember. I use their oddsmatching calculator to do so, meaning it works out how much to lay for to make guaranteed profit. (Which in that case was about £17.40 whatever the outcome). It takes a massive amount of the work out of it for you. I signed up with Paddy Power today and used my £30 free bet on a horse in the 15:10 at Wolverhampton. I was guaranteed £21 back for my free bet either way, but decided to risk it on an underlay, meaning that if it lost I was £18 up and if it won I was £30 up which for £3 of a difference was a risk worth taking. I've been doing it just about a week and a half now and am £200 up on it. It's still relatively slow due to funds being tied up, but I'd happily accept £200 profit every 10 days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Are you paying to use the same calculator I have linked below? http://www.oddsmonkey.com/Calculator.aspx It is the odds monkey calculator, yeah. It's not the reason I'm paying for it though, it's the oddsmatching service, offers, tips, tutorials, how to lay on accumulators and info on how to avoid being barred from these offers.I feel it's been well worth it so far. The calculator is good if you already know what you're doing, where market value lies and what you're looking for in terms of bets. I didn't really know any of these things. Edited December 22, 2015 by djchapsticks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 After a month or two you will be doing it yourself. Good luck, I like seeing people hump the bookies. Hopefully. Thats the reason I've only signed up on a month to month basis, rather than annually. If I get good I'll go into it myself. It's certainly not a get rich quick scheme but it's sustainable long term if done correctly, I think. It's good as well in that it'll more or less replace my normal punting long term if I stick with it, I feel. There are more than enough offers on the go constantly to justify not having to fire on £20 here and there and crossing my fingers. The problem just now is that there's so many that to do all of them, I'd need around £2-3k of a bank to cover everything. This size of bank apparently will come with patience and discipline. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Stu Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Going to give this a go in New Year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Same. About mug bets. What do you do? Do you bet on hibs/generic team here...and still lay against them on bet fair? How many mugs bets do you do a week and how much do you spent on them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Same. About mug bets. What do you do? Do you bet on hibs/generic team here...and still lay against them on bet fair? How many mugs bets do you do a week and how much do you spent on them? Depends really. Some accounts are harder to keep open than others. I haven't really done any yet other than a couple with Coral. WH and Paddy Power (one of the hardest to keep open). I'm not sure what is 'right' and what isn't. It's not possible to mug a lot just now as I am doing lots of sign ups. It's more when companies are offering boosted odds or reload offers (free bets) that you think about mugging as a punter who is only utilising offers is going to be flagged up pretty quickly and restricted. A mug bet will generally lose a few pence (40-60p) a time after laying which is worth it long term. Unless you're good at over or underlaying which I've not really gotten into yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 From what I gather mugging is seen as big singles on things like top English Premiership clubs, Champions league matches, favourite horses, regular bets on your own club going with heart rather than head, and also accas on the football which bookies love. Loads of info on that profit accumulator site I'm going to keep subscribing for the near future 23 quid a month is nothing in the grand scheme of things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Dabbled at this a few years ago - got a spreadsheet tracker from my mate which, once I got my head around it, was fantastic - like others who've posted before, Some bookies are quicker than others to ban or restrict your account - Boylesports were almost instantly aware of what I was doing. Boylesport and their affiliates are classed as hit and run sites. Get in, get profit, get out. They aren't that important in the grand scheme of things as they'll restrict you pretty quickly. 888 are classed as an important one to keep sweet as they are good to their customers in terms of offers and loyalty bonuses. I'm not using a spreadsheet on the computer. I've got a good old fashioned sports book running. Find it's much easier with it written down in front of me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMDP Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I have been doing this a couple of weeks, a touch over 200 up. Moving on to the advanced offers before hitting the bet365 one. Couple of successful casino offers too - not running a spreadsheet either, doing it all by hand which has really helped me keep track/plan ahead. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 William Hill doing £20 for a free tenner in play bets on 3 live matches tomorrow. Makes for a relatively simple £22-25 profit over the piece if laying as normal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 William Hill doing £20 for a free tenner in play bets on 3 live matches tomorrow. Makes for a relatively simple £22-25 profit over the piece if laying as normal. Ok - how did that work out? - what did you do?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Ok - how did that work out? - what did you do?? Worked out about £16 as I covered the Man Utd and Arsenal matches and punted my other free tenner on Lukaku FGS in the Newcastle Everton match. I also had a tenner refund from Smarkets as their offer was £10 cash back on your first losing Lay bet, so £26. I also had an offer from Ladbrokes for a risk free tenner in their casino so decided to punt it on Frankie Dettori, Lucky 7 slot and pulled a £75 win with my second spin. Then WH's daily Xmas cracker for today, is offering £10 risk free on their video poker, so went in and punted a hand on it to take £30 profit from it. These are all adding up, I'm now sitting on £330 clear profit after two weeks and still working my way through signup offers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 What happens when you run out of introductory offers? Will doing enough mug bets keep your bonus bets going so you still make a profit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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