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I think my favourite laboured victories in slams was his 2016 run to the French Open final.  Two sets down to Stepanek in Round One and the two sets to one down to Mathiaus Bourgue in Round 2.

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13 minutes ago, Loki said:

Even in those title wins he was two sets down to Verdasco in the QF.  In 2016 he chucked away a two set lead against Tsonga in the QF.  In his US Open win he was a set and two breaks down to Cilic in the last 16.  
 

In the ATP finals he was match point down to Raonic in the semi final.  Also took more than 3.5 hours to get past Nishikori.

He very rarely won the first set in Slam semi finals.  I think the Murray roller coaster has always been there.  I think his struggles in matches are the norm.  He isn’t as good as Federer, Djokovic or Nadal and I feel he gets judged against their standards.

To me those matches don't really lead to criticisms, they show his strength. He's never had the natural talent of the big 3 and really he never had much more than the chasing pack. Good players having a really good match were always going to trouble him. He didn't have a surface on which he could stand out, unlike the other 3. But he had more determination not to lose than anyone else on the tour, and nobody trained harder either.

His flakes cost him sets but rarely matches. From his first QF in a slam, at Wimbledon in 2008 only once in any slam did he lose before the last 16 until his injury in 2017. Only 6 times in 36 slams did he not make the quarters at least, and it happened only once in 6 years 2011-2016 (to Kevin Anderson at the US Open. It's incredible consistency. You look at Wawrinka with his 3 slams, he has nothing like that record.

I've always thought the distinctions among the big 4 were that Federer was the best player, Djokovic the best athlete, Nadal had the most will to win and Murray most hated to lose. Very Scottish tbh.

Three slams from 11 finals, two Olympics, a Davis Cup, an ATP Finals, world number 1 (for the 14th most weeks), 7 of the 9 Masters titles, in the toughest era ever in men's tennis, and unquestionably cut short at the top by injury. We've seen him beat Federer on grass, Djokovic on hard court and Nadal on clay. It's been a privilege to follow.

How Basilashvili is feeling right now:

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1 hour ago, GordonS said:

Just checked and it was 2015 it changed, so this is the 5th championships with the later start. I'd thought they changed it much more recently. I'm blaming old age.

First week of Wimbledon used to be the last week of school. Second week was in the Kilmarnock fair and we'd be watching it on holiday somewhere. In the case of the Borg v McEnroe tie break, the window of Radio Rentals in Monmouth. 

 

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It’s a shame to me that there doesn’t seem to be any prospect of a Murray brothers partnership with Andy switching to concentrate on doubles which should be friendlier on his body. I think they could play together for 3-4 years and win multiple grand slams.

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It’s a shame to me that there doesn’t seem to be any prospect of a Murray brothers partnership with Andy switching to concentrate on doubles which should be friendlier on his body. I think they could play together for 3-4 years and win multiple grand slams.
They could join up but remember that Jamie is actually the older brother & has just partnered back up with Soares who he's won all his GS double titles with.

JM will be on the hunt for a couple more GS doubles titles before he retires & much more likely to do so with an established partner he's won slams with before.

Andy seems determined to stay playing singles so
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Andy has often produced Wimbledon roller coasters.... Gasquet, Bagdades(i know spelt wrong), warkinka(prob spelt wing), Verdasco.(maybe spelt wrong) and Nalbandian( think spelling ok), springs to mind.
Lost that last one but very young at time...

I’d add in his loss to Roddick in 09 and his win vs Janowicz in 13 on the list of mental games he was involved in. Not quite as mental as the Gasquet one right enough.
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I believe the middle Sunday break is still there this year but will be gone from next year.  Wimbledon finally realising the ticket sales from show courts will greatly help them balance their books.

Murray will be on centre third today, again Novak opening with a women’s match in between.

Must be pretty horrendous if you’re Serena and your Wimbledon ends like that.  Probably the only slam she has a genuine chance of winning.  Every year that chances diminish. This is the first slam since French Open 2012 that Venus Williams has lasted longer.

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Shapovalov will be Murray’s opponent in the next round of he is to get through tonight.  Andujar withdrew giving him a walk over.  So he will be nice and fresh for either Otte or Murray.

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Nole absolutely destroyed Anderson.  He looked unbelievable today.  There were still a couple of tumbles though, but on the whole he just seemed super comfortable.

Barring injury, I just can't see anyone living with him if he continues to play like that.  We could be living through a time when three players are all on 20 majors, I remember thinking that no-one in the modern game would match Sampras' 14!

Yours

aDONis

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