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Was saying to a colleague earlier, when do you ever see Nadal, Djokovic or Federer lose as convincingly as that? That's an absolute dicking. The only time I can think of when one of them lost like that was in 2009 when Nadal lost 6-2 6-2 6-2 to Del Potro at the US Open.

He'll bounce back in Madrid though and probably go deep in the draw, that's a nap if ever there was one

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Murray's had a lot of trouble in the past from Wawrinka.

Stan can be a really good player when he wants to be. Which is usually against anyone not called Roger Federer.

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Wawrinka's hitting was excellent. Murray didn't really want to be there by the looks of his body language. I really think Murray detests the clay season. He is the only player in the top ten never to make a final in the clay. Only Tsonga and himself have never won a tournament on clay. I would expect Stan to win tomorrow as well, but Tsonga will give him a more of a game.

Wawrinka will perform better this year.

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Richard Gasquet bounces a tennis ball the same way I bounced a basketball when I was 5.

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If Murray has any ambition at all to get himself up the rankings he is going to have to pull his finger out in the non-slam events.

He just doesnt seem interested a lot of the time and his record is pretty poor for the last couple of years especially compared to his record in slams.

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Disagree. He has won 9 atp 1000 masters events. World number 1 Djokovic has only 4 more.

If you take WGC events in golf as an equivalent. Lee Westwood has not won any and Luke Donald has won just 1 title.

Murray is doing fine at this level.

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If Murray has any ambition at all to get himself up the rankings he is going to have to pull his finger out in the non-slam events.

He just doesnt seem interested a lot of the time and his record is pretty poor for the last couple of years especially compared to his record in slams.

He won the Miami Masters to become world number two...

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If Murray has any ambition at all to get himself up the rankings he is going to have to pull his finger out in the non-slam events.

He just doesnt seem interested a lot of the time and his record is pretty poor for the last couple of years especially compared to his record in slams.

Up until a couple of years ago the criticism was the opposite, that he performed well in the Masters events but couldn't beat the same players in the Slams. In the last couple of years he's clearly changed his training and schedule to peak at the Slams, which he has, but it's had a negative effect on his Masters performances. While he would obviously like to win more Masters events I think he would be foolish to change what he's doing at the moment as it's seen him reach the last 3 slam finals.

It will be hard for him to ever reach world number 1 because of how weak he is on clay (relatively speaking of course), he would need to clean up over the grass and hard hard court stretch, which with Djokovic around isn't going to happen.

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If Murray has any ambition at all to get himself up the rankings he is going to have to pull his finger out in the non-slam events.

He just doesnt seem interested a lot of the time and his record is pretty poor for the last couple of years especially compared to his record in slams.

Bollocks.

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He is down to No.3 in the world again. However there is 10 pts difference between Federer and Murray with Murray needing to defend 90 points in the next two Master events and Federer needing to defend 1360. So as long as Murray doesn't have a performance like he did against Wawrinka he should be second going into the French. Nadal will be at least number 5 in the world going into the French. As he has 1,590 points to defend. David Ferrer is almost 1,000 points ahead now. So he would need to drop out early in both Masters Events and Nadal will have to win them all.

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So in theory Nadal, Federer and Djokovic could all be in the other half of the draw from Murray in the French Open.

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Yes but I wouldn't be surprised to see Nadal get a higher seeding than his ranking.

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Disagree. He has won 9 atp 1000 masters events. World number 1 Djokovic has only 4 more.

If you take WGC events in golf as an equivalent. Lee Westwood has not won any and Luke Donald has won just 1 title.

Murray is doing fine at this level.

He won the Miami Masters to become world number two...

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Disagree. He has won 9 atp 1000 masters events. World number 1 Djokovic has only 4 more.

If you take WGC events in golf as an equivalent. Lee Westwood has not won any and Luke Donald has won just 1 title.

Murray is doing fine at this level.

Up until a couple of years ago the criticism was the opposite, that he performed well in the Masters events but couldn't beat the same players in the Slams. In the last couple of years he's clearly changed his training and schedule to peak at the Slams, which he has, but it's had a negative effect on his Masters performances. While he would obviously like to win more Masters events I think he would be foolish to change what he's doing at the moment as it's seen him reach the last 3 slam finals.

It will be hard for him to ever reach world number 1 because of how weak he is on clay (relatively speaking of course), he would need to clean up over the grass and hard hard court stretch, which with Djokovic around isn't going to happen.

Bollocks.

He has done really well in the past in Masters events but not in the last year and a half.

In the last year for example he has won Miami but to be honest he didnt play that well and his main rivals all dropped out early.

Other than that he has reached one final but hasnt made a semi in any of the other Master events in the last year.

Given the amount of talent Murray has and how much better he is than the players outside the top four he should regularly be making semi finals.

I am not expecting him to be beating Djokavic, Nadal and Federer every week but he shouldnt need to to make semi finals most of the time.

To say he doesnt peak for Masters tournaments, I dont buy that, who does peak for them? Tennis players should all be geared up to performing at their peak in the Slams.

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He has done really well in the past in Masters events but not in the last year and a half.

In the last year for example he has won Miami but to be honest he didnt play that well and his main rivals all dropped out early.

Other than that he has reached one final but hasnt made a semi in any of the other Master events in the last year.

Given the amount of talent Murray has and how much better he is than the players outside the top four he should regularly be making semi finals.

I am not expecting him to be beating Djokavic, Nadal and Federer every week but he shouldnt need to to make semi finals most of the time.

To say he doesnt peak for Masters tournaments, I dont buy that, who does peak for them? Tennis players should all be geared up to performing at their peak in the Slams.

His main rivals dropped out early? Well for a start Federer and Nadal did not enter that tournament. Tommy Haas played close to the best tennis of anyone to beat Novak in straight sets. You can only beat what is in front of you. Murray had a poor result against Wawrinka, but Djokovic, Nadal and Federer have all had surprise losses this year as well. He also lost to an inspired Del Potro in Indian Wells, Del Potro was very unlucky not to tough the final out and beat Nadal. He had also a great win over Djokovic in the SF to follow up his defeat of Murray in the QF.

I will agree with you that last year the Masters events were not his high priority, but I think this year he has already showed that they mean more to him this year. Murray will always have the odd hammering on clay.

Over a best of three match sometimes you can get beat. I would say that he hasn't played any 500 or 250 events since the start of the year shows that he is taking the Masters events seriously this season.

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This might be a stupid question but I may as well ask as someone might know the answer!

I noticed that they have increased the prize money for Wimbledon by 40%. This seems like a pretty big increase and I wouldnt say they would be forced to do it as people will play the event anyway given its a Slam.

Are they increasing the money just because they have nothing else to do with it? Is it for bragging rights as you want to have the kudos of paying the most? Or is it just out of the goodness of their hearts?

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I think part of it is to try and increase the prize money for those in the qualifiers and the first couple of rounds in particular - there's a lot of players who don't make a wonderful living (in terms of cash) out of the game and this is an attempt to help. Of course in doing this, there tends to be a need to increase it all the way through so that the distribution remains fairly similar.

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I think part of it is to try and increase the prize money for those in the qualifiers and the first couple of rounds in particular - there's a lot of players who don't make a wonderful living (in terms of cash) out of the game and this is an attempt to help. Of course in doing this, there tends to be a need to increase it all the way through so that the distribution remains fairly similar.

Not too bad for all those hopeless British wildcards then :)

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Not too bad for all those hopeless British wildcards then :)

Yeah, £23,500 just for turning up - not too shabby

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