TheScarf Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Roddick, Gonzalez and Verdasco's bothered him in the last three slams though. True, but the general consensus was that these guys played 'the match of there lives'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Its been good watching him charge his way through, and I like the fact that Murray getting to the business end of a tournament is no longer big news. Just last year, Murray getting to a Masters quarter final would have generated masses of press, but now, its really a routine thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 True, but the general consensus was that these guys played 'the match of there lives'. Hmm... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hmm... Certainly was the case with Roddick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Yeah but my point is it's a tad worrying that in Slams if Murrays runs into someone who is playing well, can he not get the job done? What's the difference in the 3 set tournaments? Is no one interested? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWeb Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 What's the difference in the 3 set tournaments? Is no one interested? There are only four Majors ie four 5 set tournaments per year. If any professional is not 'interested' in the 44 weeks not covered by Majors then they are a waste of space. The Masters events are highly sought after titles and the only players who have any right not to be 'interested' are those who have already won a hatful. Try telling Potty he wasn't 'interested' in beating Murray last week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 It just always grates on me that any time Murrays gets put out in a Slam it's because the guy he was playing was too good. In my opinion it's because he doesn't take the initiative when it truly matters. Don't get me wrong, love watching the lad but I want him to be right up there with the cream and I have my doubts whether he is upto it. Hope I'm wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 It just always grates on me that any time Murrays gets put out in a Slam it's because the guy he was playing was too good. In my opinion it's because he doesn't take the initiative when it truly matters.Don't get me wrong, love watching the lad but I want him to be right up there with the cream and I have my doubts whether he is upto it. Hope I'm wrong though. That's exactly what it is. In the Aussie Open against Verdasco, he had plenty of opportunities, but was too defensive. The comment about the other players playing 'the match of there lives' has been banded around a few times Re Murray. It gets on my dick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Don't get me wrong, love watching the lad but I want him to be right up there with the cream and I have my doubts whether he is upto it. Hope I'm wrong though. He's number 2 in the world. The first player to break the Federer-Nadal 1-2 in the rankings for nearly five years. I'd say that makes him 'right up there with the cream'. Also, he can't be expected to win every single match he plays. He played a clay court specialist on the top of his game in Paris, and a grass court specialist on the top of his game at Wimbledon. It's no real surprise he lost both matches. Pete Sampras regularly lost to clay courters during his career. The loss to Verdasco was a tough yin for him, mind, although Verdasco has arguably never played better the entire year. I'd class Murray now as a hard court specialist. I can't see anyone other than Federer stopping him winning the US Open this year, not even Nadal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) I agree he has to be considered a great player but until he wins a Slam any amount of Masters titles won't matter 5 or 10 years after he retires. Sad but true. The naysayers will only care about one thing unfortunately. It's because of that that I want him to do it, to prove so many people wrong. Edited August 21, 2009 by dubs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantene proV Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) You're all in such a rush! I read on another website that Murrays' career trajectory is frighteningly similar to Federers. The climb through the rankings in relation to their ages is almost identical and Fed won his first Slam on his 17th (i think) attempt - the US Open will be Murray's 15th attempt. If Andy wins Cincy AND US Open he'll become world #1 at a younger age than Federer managed to do so! It's a huge ask and i'm not saying Murray will be able to dominate like Fed but you never know. Edited August 21, 2009 by pantene proV 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Not wishing to pick on you, but this is an oft quoted myth. The gulf between the pros and the nearly pros is enormous. And then some. Absolutely no comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 It just always grates on me that any time Murrays gets put out in a Slam it's because the guy he was playing was too good. In my opinion it's because he doesn't take the initiative when it truly matters.Don't get me wrong, love watching the lad but I want him to be right up there with the cream and I have my doubts whether he is upto it. Hope I'm wrong though. All the evidence so far in his career would suggest he is most certainly up to it. Nadal is considered one of the great players and Murray has replaced him as number 2 in the world. It is distinctly possible that he will supplant Federer as number 1 in the not too distant future. As a nation we are not used to seeing our sporting heroes deliver consistently at this level. Personally I feel his Slams target this year has been to win the US Open, Wimbledon would have been a bonus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 You're all in such a rush!I read on another website that Murrays' career trajectory is frighteningly similar to Federers. The climb through the rankings in relation to their ages is almost identical and Fed won his first Slam on his 17th (i think) attempt - the US Open will be Murray's 15th attempt. If Andy wins Cincy AND US Open he'll become world #1 at a younger age than Federer managed to do so! It's a huge ask and i'm not saying Murray will be able to dominate like Fed but you never know. Interesting stuff, didn't know any of that actually. I might be being a tad hasty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I read on another website that Murrays' career trajectory is frighteningly similar to Federers. The climb through the rankings in relation to their ages is almost identical and Fed won his first Slam on his 17th (i think) attempt - the US Open will be Murray's 15th attempt. If Andy wins Cincy AND US Open he'll become world #1 at a younger age than Federer managed to do so! Not only that, but in the sixteen Grand Slams before he won one, his best performance was two quarter final appearances, both in the same year (Wimbledon and Roland Garros 2001). In Murray's fourteen grand slams to date, he's already reached two quarter finals, a semi final, and a final. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Murray's struggling badly against Benneteau. The amount of unforced errors has been unreal, and he's getting frustrated with it all. The Frenchman is two points away from the first set. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 ...and the worst second serve I've ever seen in my life hands Benneteau the set. It was out by 5 yards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Murray now a break down in the second set as well. He looks gone out there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Three games in a row puts him a break up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 6-3 Murray second set. Benneteau had a 3+ hour match with Garcia-Lopez in the last round, and he's starting to look tired, which is just as well for Murray, who's playing as poorly as I've seen him in ages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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