Andy Murray Latest and General Tennis Chat

[Mark Connolly]

Isner had been almost unplayable on his serve until this tie break

[lichtie23]

Hold on a minute……

[Left Back]

Is the ballboy allowed to catch it before it bounces?  Never seen that before

[Loki]

Now the roof is likely to close which will further neuter the Isner serve.

[betting competition]

Good fight from Andy there. I hope they will now close the roof as this might suit Murray as the ball runs slower 

[Loki]

Just now, Left Back said:

Is the ballboy allowed to catch it before it bounces?  Never seen that before

Nope. It should be a let and replayed point. If a player touches it before it bounces it would be the opponents point.

[Lex]

Absolutely he’d rather play Ruud than Isner.  Proof of it is Ruud is already out and he can’t get near Isner’s serve.
If he wins he will overtake the record for most wins from two sets down.

He’s got on top of Isner’s serve every other time he’s played him, which is why he always beats him. Unlike the youngster Ruud, Isner never has been - and never will be - in a grand slam final.
That third set should be the turning point, if Murray’s body can last five sets.
Two long past it old guys going the distance. Plenty of errors and good fun coming up, and tired legs afterwards. Jannik Sinner will surely beat whoever the winner is in the next round.

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Loki said:

Nope. It should be a let and replayed point. If a player touches it before it bounces it would be the opponents point.

That doesn't sound like a rule at all.

Since plenty of shots reach the ball boys on the fly. As long as the ball boy is clearly off the court then you lose the point.

[Left Back]

4 minutes ago, Loki said:

Nope. It should be a let and replayed point. If a player touches it before it bounces it would be the opponents point.

That’s what I thought.

Why didn’t that happen then?

[Left Back]

4 minutes ago, Lex said:

 

He’s got on top of Isner’s serve every other time he’s played him, which is why he always beats him. Unlike the youngster Ruud, Isner never has been - and never will be - in a grand slam final.
That third set should be the turning point, if Murray’s body can last five sets.
Two long past it old guys going the distance. Plenty of errors and good fun coming up, and tired legs afterwards. Jannik Sinner will surely beat whoever the winner is in the next round.

 

Are the reactions just not there anymore?

[Loki]

5 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

That doesn't sound like a rule at all.

Since plenty of shots reach the ball boys on the fly. As long as the ball boy is clearly off the court then you lose the point.

Will you go look it up, and tell us what you find 

[Loki]

If Andy is to win it will be his 11th from 2-0 down.  The others:

Andy Murray Comebacks from 2-0 Down

2006 Davis Cup: Andy Murray def. Andy Ram (2-6, 4-6, 7-5, 6-2, 6-3)

2008 Wimbledon R16: Andy Murray def. Richard Gasquet (5-7, 3-6, 7-6, 6-2, 6-4)

2008 US Open R32: Andy Murray def. Jurgen Melzer (6-7, 4-6, 7-6, 6-1, 6-3)

2010 French Open R128: Andy Murray def. Richard Gasquet (4-6, 6-7, 6-4, 6-2, 6-1)

2011 French Open R16: Andy Murray def. Viktor Troicki (4-6, 4-6, 6-3, 6-2, 7-5)

2011 US Open R64: Andy Murray def. Robin Haase (6-7, 2-6, 6-2, 6-0, 6-4)

2013 Wimbledon: Andy Murray def Fernando Verdasco (4-6, 3-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-5)

2015 US Open: Andy Murray def Adrian Mannarino (5-7, 4-6, 6-1, 6-3, 6-1)

2016 French Open: Andy Murray def Radek Stepanek (3-6, 3-6, 6-0, 6-3, 7-5)

2020 US Open:  Andy Murray def Yoshihito Nishioka (4-6, 4-6, 7-6, 7-6, 6-4)

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

Just now, Loki said:

Will you go look it up, and tell us what you find 

1:33 in.

Federer wins the point as the ball boy catches a ball that didn't bounce but was clearly out.

[Loki]

7 minutes ago, Lex said:

 

He’s got on top of Isner’s serve every other time he’s played him, which is why he always beats him. Unlike the youngster Ruud, Isner never has been - and never will be - in a grand slam final.
That third set should be the turning point, if Murray’s body can last five sets.
Two long past it old guys going the distance. Plenty of errors and good fun coming up, and tired legs afterwards. Jannik Sinner will surely beat whoever the winner is in the next round.

 

Yes but it is a slam final on clay.  Ruud has barely won a match on grass in his career.  Murray would have loved to take his number 3 seeding.

[Loki]

2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

1:33 in.

Federer wins the point as the ball boy catches a ball that didn't bounce but was clearly out.

That proves nothing.  The ball isn't dead until it bounces twice.

[craigkillie]

Just now, Loki said:

That proves nothing.  The ball isn't dead until it bounces twice.

So if someone skies a volley right up into the crowd and a fan catches it, that's a let, aye?

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

Just now, Loki said:

That proves nothing.  The ball isn't dead until it bounces twice.

It proves that historically they don't replay points when the ball boy catches the ball.  Which was the quite frankly ludicrous suggestion

[craigkillie]

The ITF rules of tennis suggest that the point is lost if it hits "an object outside the correct court". I would assume that a ballboy or spectator would count as such an object

https://www.itftennis.com/media/7221/2022-rules-of-tennis-english.pdf

 

[Loki]

2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

It proves that historically they don't replay points when the ball boy catches the ball.  Which was the quite frankly ludicrous suggestion

Yeah I retract that.  You are correct.

1. The backstop and sidestop (fences), spectators, ballboys and officials are considered permanent fixtures. The point ends when the ball hits them.

[craigkillie]

Good to know it's not just football where the experts paid to commentate on it don't know the rules.