Michael W Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The only issue here seems to be that Ramos made the mistake of (correctly) responding to Queen Serena's antics rather than ignoring them. A whole load of whataboutery defensing her behaviour, primarily because of who she is rather than anyone else. Naturally the umpire should've done nothing whilst having his integrity was being called into question... Astonishing to see Williams being praised from some for showing class by telling the crowd not to boo. The crowd, of course, would not have been booing had a certain someone not thrown a prolonged hissy fit. Sincerely hope there are enough out there to publicly defend the umpire, since the written narrative seems to be that Williams was wronged. The sort of nonsense levied at him is the stuff that destroys careers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Serena should retire after that behaviour Absolutely disgusting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Only thing that Serena truly regrets is that her opponent wasn't white as she couldn't play the race card.Utter cretin of an individual 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 To talk about the game itself though, I don’t watch much women’s tennis, but last night (first set especially) was a great advert for the game. Thought it was brilliant quality. One of the most enjoyable tennis matches I’ve watched for both quality and drama! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Watched the highlights of this earlier from the point of her being penalised a point after reading about it this morning. Williams was bang out of order the entire way through it with the way she was acting. The point where she said "you'll never umpire me again as long as you live" was a personal highlight. It was disappointing that the commentators couldn't bring themselves to really condemn Williams for her behaviour. Good on the umpire, and good on Osaka for keeping her concentration through the entire farce and getting the job done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 You can't very well call the umpire a thief and expect to get away with it. That said, there's a completely different tone in the coverage of Serena's "meltdown" to McInroe, or to baseball ejections, for example. You also don't get any of the, "ah well, but it least she proves she cares" reaction which happens regularly to excuse male athletes (red cards in football being a very obvious example). Look at how the BBC report talks of Williams' "maternal instinct" kicking in during the prize giving ceremony. It seems to me to be that there are two issues at play here, one to do with enforcing the rules of tennis, and the other to do with the implied double standards in the media coverage. Framing the whole thing as Serena vs the umpire misses part of that, I feel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said: Watched the highlights of this earlier from the point of her being penalised a point after reading about it this morning. Williams was bang out of order the entire way through it with the way she was acting. The point where she said "you'll never umpire me again as long as you live" was a personal highlight. It was disappointing that the commentators couldn't bring themselves to really condemn Williams for her behaviour. Good on the umpire, and good on Osaka for keeping her concentration through the entire farce and getting the job done. The commentators, journalists, past players None of them can bring themselves to say it as it is She's a disgrace 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: You can't very well call the umpire a thief and expect to get away with it. That said, there's a completely different tone in the coverage of Serena's "meltdown" to McInroe, or to baseball ejections, for example. You also don't get any of the, "ah well, but it least she proves she cares" reaction which happens regularly to excuse male athletes (red cards in football being a very obvious example). Look at how the BBC report talks of Williams' "maternal instinct" kicking in during the prize giving ceremony. It seems to me to be that there are two issues at play here, one to do with enforcing the rules of tennis, and the other to do with the implied double standards in the media coverage. Framing the whole thing as Serena vs the umpire misses part of that, I feel. You're feeding into her bullshit excuses for her disgraceful behaviour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeVanTeeth Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I have despised the steroid abusing ugly bitch for years now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/french-open-2017-rafael-nadal-threatens-chair-umpire 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 It's amazing how someone so classy has had two complete meltdowns at the US Open. Remember her crip walk celebration at the Olympics, that she described as "just a little dance we do back home". She's just an arsehole, who gets a huge amount of leeway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Trump needs to condemn this imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I watched it earlier. Having read on here and other forums and the live text on the BBC website, it was much worse than I was expecting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, Binos said: You're feeding into her bullshit excuses for her disgraceful behaviour No, no I'm not. Most people are capable of differentiating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, LeeVanTeeth said: I have despised the steroid abusing ugly bitch for years now. And this kind of misogynistic tosh makes my point for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: I watched it earlier. Having read on here and other forums and the live text on the BBC website, it was much worse than I was expecting. Did you watch the whole game? Just seems from the crowd reaction that only seeing her blow ups without the context gives a different impression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: No, no I'm not. Most people are capable of differentiating. She's just making up excuses She should be apologising to the officials and her opponent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Did you watch the whole game? Just seems from the crowd reaction that only seeing her blow ups without the context gives a different impression. Different how? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Different how? The folk at the stadium were on her side and thought the ref was out of order, the reverse for people watching just the clips. Edited September 9, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The folk at the stadium were on her side and thought the ref was out of order, the reverse for people watching just the clips. Oh no I got the full impression that the crowd was full of wallopers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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