Mark Connolly Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 So you're only a pretendy auld c**t France vs Italy up now. Hope Japan has started the upsets. Forza Italia. Wannabe auld b*****d actually. Another TMO shambles already in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Wannabe auld b*****d actually. Another TMO shambles already in this game. Yep, another ref changing his mind after seeing the replay on the big screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Wannabe auld b*****d actually. Another TMO shambles already in this game. Apart from the ref it is the same refereeing team as last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yep, another ref changing his mind after seeing the replay on the big screen. The TMO should of checked that when they were looking at the pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmeister Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 It is but it's a far bigger upset than that - that was a decent Samoan team against a shite Welsh team. I'm racking my brain trying to think of a bigger upset in sport in my lifetime - really struggling! Did North Korea not beat Italy in the 1966 World Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddly optomistic Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Like a soggy cardboard box ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Did North Korea not beat Italy in the 1966 World Cup? How old do you c*nts think I am??????????? I believe they did, having consulted wiki about a game 15 years before my birth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Snooze fest... France going to penalty their way to a 20 point win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Can you imagine Scotland not being willing to accept a draw and going balls out for the win...? Can you f**k. We'd have probably scalffed the kick too.They went for the win in their last game vs France instead of taking the draw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 They went for the win in their last game vs France instead of taking the draw... Was only a friendly though, if that was a 6 nations game or a WC match they would have taken the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Nice try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Surely the IRB is going to have to tighten-up on this "stadium scoreboards / referees / rescinding tries and going to TMO thing" after the remaining first matchday games are completed tomorrow. It's controversial but ultimately inconsequential in early group matches where top powers are beating lower seeds by big margins - but imagine the reaction in an important knock-out match, for example, or if a try stands due to the replay arriving after the kick. As regards Japan, I caught the end of the game, and what a sensation. That's really put the cat among the pigeons in our section and it highlights both an opportunity (we can beat South Africa and/or can win the pool), and a threat (Japan and maybe the US may not be as easily dispatched as hoped). Is it the greatest shock in the world cup of a team sport? Only examples I can think of in football would be Italy losing to North Korea in 1966 - or South Korea in 2002 - plus West Germany losing to Algeria in 1982. Italy losing to Costa Rica last year wasn't as big. No greater examples in rugby union. In rugby league there is the forgotten victory of Papua New Guinea over New Zealand in 1986. Zimbabwe, Ireland and Kenya beat Australia, India and West Indies at cricket. I think there is also an extra significance in that Japan are hosting the next RWC, and it will be important that their populace feels their own team has a chance of putting up a half-decent showing. With no major championship in Asia their only test is the RWC itself hence a first win since 1991 is terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 That Japan player on the ground at full time, sobbing openly into the turf broke me a wee bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Surely the IRB is going to have to tighten-up on this "stadium scoreboards / referees / rescinding tries and going to TMO thing" after the remaining first matchday games are completed tomorrow. It's controversial but ultimately inconsequential in early group matches where top powers are beating lower seeds by big margins - but imagine the reaction in an important knock-out match, for example, or if a try stands due to the replay arriving after the kick. As regards Japan, I caught the end of the game, and what a sensation. That's really put the cat among the pigeons in our section and it highlights both an opportunity (we can beat South Africa and/or can win the pool), and a threat (Japan and maybe the US may not be as easily dispatched as hoped). Is it the greatest shock in the world cup of a team sport? Only examples I can think of in football would be Italy losing to North Korea in 1966 - or South Korea in 2002 - plus West Germany losing to Algeria in 1982. Italy losing to Costa Rica last year wasn't as big. No greater examples in rugby union. In rugby league there is the forgotten victory of Papua New Guinea over New Zealand in 1986. Zimbabwe, Ireland and Kenya beat Australia, India and West Indies at cricket. I think there is also an extra significance in that Japan are hosting the next RWC, and it will be important that their populace feels their own team has a chance of putting up a half-decent showing. With no major championship in Asia their only test is the RWC itself hence a first win since 1991 is terrific. As I understand it the ref has untill the conversion is taken (or 1 minute after the ref awards the try) to decide to ask the TMO. But in this case the TMO should of checked the grounding of the ball when it was referred to him for the pass. Also there are roomers that Japan might lose the 2019 RWC due to stadium issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Would Georgia's defeat of Tonga also be regarded as a shock?yes, although interesting to note that earlier this year they were ranked higher than italy. Only reason they aren't in the six/seven nations is because of self interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 That Japan player on the ground at full time, sobbing openly into the turf broke me a wee bit. World Rugby's facebook had a video from the end of the game - at one point it had a Japanese lady wiping away tears, while the South African fan next to her was just in total shock. Those were the sort of #scenes for which the word scenes was invented! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Various scenic commentary from around the world, in-stand views, and pubs and fanzones in Wales and Brighton. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBFup2hEcAo https://streamable.com/lryi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 The Japanese scored two tries that any of the top countries would have been proud of. The set piece knock down and go from the line out was brilliantly executed, and the way they used the full width of the pitch for the winning try was superb too. Not to mention the bottle and belief that they could score a try at that stage. Certainly a lot more worried about Wednesday than I was before. Can only hope that 4 days is nowhere near enough recovery time for Japan after the mental and physical effort they put in yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Strangely I am no more worried about it than before. Got to admit Japan were superb, but it was a similar gameplan to the one we play, and the South African style just isn't equipped to cope with it when you get it right. South Africa looked vulnerable in the Rugby Championship, they were beaten in South Africa by Argentina - probably one of the biggest shocks in South African rugby until yesterday! I'm pretty confident that Scotland will still win on Wednesday - I don't think it's a guaranteed 5 pointer, but then Scotland games rarely are. Will be interesting to see if we unleash Strauss on them. He becomes Scottish today (i think), but he'll probably be raging at yesterday's result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 France loosing to Senegal in 2002 was a pretty huge shock at the time. Did an all star USA basketball team not loose to Spain or Cuba in the Olympic final a while back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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