The Master Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 TV company which doesn't have the rights to matches in saying competition is impacting on competition to which it does have TV rights shocker. Or something. To be fair, Sky don't have the Champions League rights either. But then I suppose they're just being consistent. They've always rubbished the Europa League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I was listening to Chris Evans on Radio 2 the other day and his sports reporter, Vassos Alexander, made some really snide comment about the Europa league, something along the lines of "here's the Europa league results for the one person out there who may be interested". I certainly don't remember the Uefa Cup or the CWC being dismissed in this way. The English deserve to lose their 4th place just for displaying such arrogance. What I still don't understand is why playing Thursday/Sunday is somehow worse than Wednesday/Saturday. 9.55pm Thursday - 1.30pm Sunday is 63h35m; 9.35pm Wednesday - 3pm Saturday is 65h25m. A difference of just over 2 hours. Any professional footballer that's affected by 2 hours less between games a serious problem. And even then that's only on the very rare occasion that a Europa League team is televised in the early Sunday kick-off. Normally they'll kick off at 4pm, which gives a longer gap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 What I still don't understand is why playing Thursday/Sunday is somehow worse than Wednesday/Saturday. 9.55pm Thursday - 1.30pm Sunday is 63h35m; 9.35pm Wednesday - 3pm Saturday is 65h25m. A difference of just over 2 hours. Any professional footballer that's affected by 2 hours less between games a serious problem. And even then that's only on the very rare occasion that a Europa League team is televised in the early Sunday kick-off. Normally they'll kick off at 4pm, which gives a longer gap. While I don't disagree, there will also be the psychological aspect of it moving away from the usual Saturday kick-offs. It's very likely that most of the teams around you will have already played the day before, so you're playing catch-up slightly. You're also on TV - maybe that affects attendances, or general performance (unless you're Newcastle, in which case you'll definitely win). And when you have to do that at least six times a season, I guess it could build up. Of course, if that's true then it's still ridiculous. It shouldn't make a noticeable difference. It's probably just down to being a reverse placebo - they've convinced themselves that it makes a big difference, so it ends up making a difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 And yet another article from Sky running the Europa League into the ground. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11960/10099975/does-europa-league-football-damage-premier-league-clubs-domestic-form Of course, the stats are meaningless without a baseline comparison, i.e. what was the average place drop in the entire league that season? But by all means encourage Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs to go out as early as possible. It just increases the chance of them not getting into the CL in future. It's reversion to the mean. The fact that teams are in Europe suggests they had a particularly high finish the previous season and so they're more likely to go down than up the following one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Imagine getting angry at a business promoting their own interests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Imagine getting angry at a business promoting their own interests. I imagined it And it made me sad Thanks a lot for that you c**t 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 English teams and only 1 Italian team through tonight. Would imagine England will be clinging onto that spot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 their still behind, just 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 No they aren't, they're over 3 points ahead for the 2016 list, which will determine qualification places for the 2017/18 European competitions. They are currently just behind on the 2017 list, but they will have all of next season to make that up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 No they aren't, they're over 3 points ahead for the 2016 list, which will determine qualification places for the 2017/18 European competitions. They are currently just behind on the 2017 list, but they will have all of next season to make that up. so their behind, just 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 They're ahead on the ranking that matters. They're behind in one which isn't remotely relevant at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 As I recall there are bonus points for QFs onward in both competitions. If say Juventus and Lazio went on runs to finals, while the English clubs mainly exited in Last 16 or QFs (with associated fewer tie wins), could this 3pt deficit be made up? Or is it already insurmountable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 As I recall there are bonus points for QFs onward in both competitions. If say Juventus and Lazio went on runs to finals, while the English clubs mainly exited in Last 16 or QFs (with associated fewer tie wins), could this 3pt deficit be made up? Or is it already insurmountable. Yes it could be made up Winning both legs of a tie and going through gets you 5 points (2 for each tie and one bonus point for reaching another stage) so if Lazio got through the round of 16, the quarterfinals and the semifinals they could amass 15 point on the way to the final, Juve only have one round of 16 tie left so they can only get 13 on the way to the final. Winning the finals would be another 2 points each giving 32 total. That's divided by 7 (the number of Italian teams in the competitions) to give just over four and a half. England are guaranteed at least another 0.625 as even the worst case scenario see's Liverpool or Manchester United through to the last 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Nae danger of Lazio making the final. They've been very poor this season. Would also be very surprised to see Juve turn it around against Bayern 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 England keeps 4 CL places for the 2017-18 season following Juve's exit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Lazio absolutely pumped out by Sparta Prague tonight too so there ends the Italian interest in European football for another season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 So when's this happening then? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Florentine_Pogen Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 "Greatest League in the World" [emoji767] Sky SportsHmmmm..........I wonder how many home-grown English players will partake of the 2 European finals this year.....? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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