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RISE - The "Scottish Syriza"


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What an absolute minter this lot were :lol:

The only remaining question is does the alliance naturally drift apart or will they have bitter infighting leading to several warring factions contesting the next election?

There are loads of remaining questions. Just cos you've only got one doesn't mean it's the only one.

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Surely an incredibly poor result for them. Wasn't expecting them to do overly well or to get any seats as such, but I assumed they'd outperform Solidarity comfortably. Couldn't even manage that in the end.

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You can say that about a lot of left wingers.

Not many rich lefties in this world.

 

 

This. In fact I'd conjecture that the proportion of voters that actively vote against their own best interest full stop is utterly miniscule,

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Yet 55% of Scotland did so in 2014 and in 2016 they voted over 30 tories into the scottish parliament, kinda makes your argument redundant.

You're arguing that every No voter and Tory voter doesn't benefit from the union and and from conservative government? I'd argue that plenty of people benefit from Tory policies.

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You're arguing that every No voter and Tory voter doesn't benefit from the union and and from conservative government? I'd argue that plenty of people benefit from Tory policies.

We did in Motherwell.

We've got a cracking gym where the steelworks used to be.

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"Recognized" isn't "fact". It's the way people choose to look at history. Not history exactly as it was.

I'm not suggesting for on​e moment that Zedong and Stalin were top blokes. But when you're talking about millions upon millions of lives. How an earth can you accurately attribute how many of those lives were a direct result of the government in power at that time? There are so many factors that could have attributed to many of those deaths. Such as far right lunatic groups murdering supporters of the regime. Which still gets thrown into the statistics.

The weasel words here are typical of the far left.

Delighted to see RISE utterly hammered by the way.

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Surely an incredibly poor result for them. Wasn't expecting them to do overly well or to get any seats as such, but I assumed they'd outperform Solidarity comfortably.

 

Solidarity's base consists of people who bought into the Cult of Sheridan more than a decade ago. Any actual policies are irrelevant. George Galloway got over 100k votes for London mayor, as an aside.

 

I'm a bit puzzled by RISE's numbers really - if I were still eligible they'd have gotten my second vote, because I wanted to see Colin Fox back in parliament. I suppose it should be marked as a success of the "both votes SNP" camp that nearly every self-identifying lefty in the country ended up throwing their second votes onto the pile.

 

There's also the rather silly decision to repeat their vow to repeal the naughty songs act the day before the election, especially seeing as it was worded like the usual Green Brigade press releases.

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Anyone want to admit to being one of the 11 people in Scotland that voted for rise?

or one of the f**king thousands that voted for the Scottish Christian Party "Proclaiming Christ's Lordship"

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or one of the f**king thousands that voted for the Scottish Christian Party "Proclaiming Christ's Lordship"

 

There was one in my work & proud of it. Any of those I've ever encountered down the years tend to be the sort that want everyone hanged or flogged for not wearing a tie, having leftie thoughts, etc. but don't want the stigma BF/BNP/NF membership would bring. They're the other intolerant cheek of the same arse RISE & their ilk come from.

 

Have yourself a chuckle over their so-called Declaration of British Values.

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Griffin is an unreconstructed national socialist who tried to play at democratic politics for a while. He would love to have contributed to the holocaust.

 

The BNP don't care about politics at all. The purpose of the BNP was/is that if you could keep the membership above say, 2000 & convince some of those people to include the BNP in their wills, then there was potentially well paying employment for four or five closely connected people in it.

 

That's all it ever was.

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There was one in my work & proud of it. Any of those I've ever encountered down the years tend to be the sort that want everyone hanged or flogged for not wearing a tie, having leftie thoughts, etc. but don't want the stigma BF/BNP/NF membership would bring. They're the other intolerant cheek of the same arse RISE & their ilk come from.

 

Have yourself a chuckle over their so-called Declaration of British Values.

ffs. I take it an atheist cannae join :lol:

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Are you really arguing against the fact that Mao Zedong and Stalin are widely recognised as having been responsible for the deaths of at least 3 times the amount of human beings each that Adolf Hitler was?

 
It's easy to criticise Adolf Hitler (Führer of Germany 1934-1945) but, to be fair to the little Austrian, he had about a third as much time to work with as Josef Stalin (General Secretary of the Communist Party of the USSR 1922-1952) and Mao Zedong (Chairman of the Communist Party of China 1945-1976)

He was also working, even at the peak of the reich, with a far smaller population about 2 times smaller than the USSR and 4 times smaller than China

 
Give the guy a break,
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