xbl. Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I still agree with the "material change" argument I reckon that just for a laugh, about 2018, Sturgeon (if she wins next year) should announce that all Holyrood chairs are to be re-upholstered. And that this constitutes a material change. After all, she can announce what she likes. Cameron has said he will block it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Yep, the water rises at the dam every year. One year it will burst. I can wait.... Birthday caird pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think any Indyref 2 in the next 5 years would be a huge mistake. Yup. I'm still of the opinion that anyone who wants one that soon is a lunatic who is just begging for the Yes vote to go down the drain for our lifetimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Yup. I'm still of the opinion that anyone who wants one that soon is a lunatic who is just begging for the Yes vote to go down the drain for our lifetimes. Not to mention it would put Sturgeon in a position where she'll be forced to resign in the event of a No. She's going to wait at least till the middle or end of the next decade before calling another referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TapothehullDee Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Its fantastic listening to these red bearded slavering nationalists begging for another chance to get utterly thrashed. No, no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ah right. So mention of future elections. Glad that has been cleared up As FIDE posted the results for the GE just past then that is why the comment was relevant. Given recent SNP manifestos I suspect the same line will prevail again - a vote for the SNP is not a vote for independence etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 I still agree with the "material change" argument, but for me that could only Scotland being removed from the EU against it's will, none of this pish about The Vow. So there's nothing wrong with the Scotland Bill giving us practically f**k all after Dishface said this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 So there's nothing wrong with the Scotland Bill giving us practically f**k all after Dishface said this? Of course there is, but is it grounds for referendum than, in my opinion, would be self defeating for the independence movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Still seething http://glasgowunihumanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/prime-minister-david-cameron-wades-into.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl. Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I can't read the link here,but from the title, I saw "glasgow uni" and my Law Squad klaxon went off. Can you c&p the text? I do enjoy a bit of craven north british seethe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Don't waste your time. SNP won 56 seats because everyone who voted for them thought it was the next way to get independence. He/she, and I quote, "don't agreed" in respect to EVEL No one trusts the SNP SNP bad SNP bad Something about Tories centre right, and a failure in Scotland too If you want to still read it I will c&p when home if Enrico or someone else hadn't before hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Its fantastic listening to these red bearded slavering nationalists begging for another chance to get utterly thrashed. No, no no. Calm down. Sincerely, a red bearded, nationalist looking for a rational discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl. Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Don't waste your time. SNP won 56 seats because everyone who voted for them thought it was the next way to get independence. He/she, and I quote, "don't agreed" in respect to EVEL No one trusts the SNP SNP bad SNP bad Something about Tories centre right, and a failure in Scotland too If you want to still read it I will c&p when home if Enrico or someone else hadn't before hand Love that summary, that'll do nicely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Maybe he isn't so confident about the result next time He took a huge gamble and won, it will be the responsibility of his predecessor to put their neck on the line next time around (whenever that is) You can't blame Cameron for wanting to leave this particular table and cash his chips in, every other politician would do exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradHorse Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Anyone know the legitimacy of this graphic? If it's accurate then I say we give it 10-15 years then vote our way to a better country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Anyone know the legitimacy of this graphic? If it's accurate then I say we give it 10-15 years then vote our way to a better country. Based on an University of Edinburgh study into voting behaviours, used YouGov as a pollster and had a sample size of something like 4000 folk. It's only one part of a larger study but yes, it's legitimate in so far as the limitations of polling allows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Ten years or a cold winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradHorse Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Based on an University of Edinburgh study into voting behaviours, used YouGov as a pollster and had a sample size of something like 4000 folk. It's only one part of a larger study but yes, it's legitimate in so far as the limitations of polling allows. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Anyone know the legitimacy of this graphic? If it's accurate then I say we give it 10-15 years then vote our way to a better country. Strange to see such a disparity between 16 - 17 year olds and 18 - 24 year olds? Can't think as to why that is, exactly - are there more non-Scottish nationals in the 18-24 group than other groups? That age strikes me as being a "studenty" age - can picture a fair few English students in that group being asked for the survey, who in all likelihood are hardline No voters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Anyone know the legitimacy of this graphic? If it's accurate then I say we give it 10-15 years then vote our way to a better country. Don't you just LOVE those cuddly pensioners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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