gannonball Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Clown Job said: Never fails to amaze me just how thin skinned some journalists are You made a mistake, no big deal a simple correction would have done But nope, you gotta double down Oooft, losing your shit with some whataboutery thrown in for good measure. Admittedly the whole ‘statement’ thing is a bit cringey from the Celtic fan but a simple hands up would have sufficed from Ewan. Was he the guy that was going batshit crazy about Hearts being relegated? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, G51 said: But Celtic did take government funds? Every company did. That’s what the furlough scheme was. They didn’t take the loan but there’s no argument that Celtic took government funds, they were perfectly eligible to do so. The only reason Celtic didn’t take the government loan is because the conditions required them to stop paying directors bonuses, which would have resulted in Lawwell’s pay being cut significantly (and all the other directors wouldn’t be able to cash in either). A bit of a leap here, the furlough went to employees rather than the employers, it was to protect jobs and stop mass redundancies. Initially you weren’t even allowed to work at all for the company. For the avoidance Of doubt I’m not saying Celtic are the good guys in this as the board are probs all Uber Tory wanks but what Murray was moaning about in regards to us wasn’t really true. Edited January 7, 2022 by gannonball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, gannonball said: A bit of a leap here, the furlough went to employees rather than the employers, it was to protect jobs and stop mass redundancies. Initially you weren’t even allowed to work at all for the company. For the avoidance Of doubt I’m not saying Celtic are the good guys in this as the board are probs all Uber Tory wanks but what Murray was moaning about in regards to us wasn’t really true. The furlough went to the employers, they had to claim for it. Nobody got a cheque from the Treasury for their wages. If Celtic hadn’t taken furlough, they’d have been required to honour the contract and either pay the wages themselves or terminate the contracts as per the clauses in them. There can be no argument that Celtic took government money. Everyone did. Murray is right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, G51 said: The furlough went to the employers, they had to claim for it. Nobody got a cheque from the Treasury for their wages. If Celtic hadn’t taken furlough, they’d have been required to honour the contract and either pay the wages themselves or terminate the contracts as per the clauses in them. There can be no argument that Celtic took government money. Everyone did. Murray is right. It through the employers PAYE system (to employees). Sorry but I really don’t think you are that simple and are either trolling or just that blinkered, probs the latter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, gannonball said: It through the employers PAYE system (to employees). Sorry but I really don’t think you are that simple and are either trolling or just that blinkered, probs the latter. You’re talking semantics here but he’s right, Celtic did take government money to pay their staff. It is a fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, gannonball said: It through the employers PAYE system (to employees). Sorry but I really don’t think you are that simple and are either trolling or just that blinkered, probs the latter. To argue that the furlough scheme is NOT a business accepting government funds is a bit disingenuous considering it literally allowed businesses to pay staff (up to a certain percentage) with a government handout rather than from their own pocket. Businesses then had the option to top up the wages to 100% if they wished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You’re talking semantics here but he’s right, Celtic did take government money to pay their staff. It is a fact. 4 minutes ago, AJF said: To argue that the furlough scheme is NOT a business accepting government funds is a bit disingenuous considering it literally allowed businesses to pay staff (up to a certain percentage) with a government handout rather than from their own pocket. Businesses then had the option to top up the wages to 100% if they wished. I get some of your points but that is not what Murray was alluding to, hence going on the offensive about IRA chants. The furlough scheme was purely to protect jobs and you couldn’t even work for the company whilst claiming it, where as the loan/grant system was to help out the immediate cash flow issues to businesses that Murray was talking about, as he was talking about the Scottish government at the time. Celtic chose not to, the ulterior motive as to why is an interesting one suggested by G51 tbh and is quite believable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You’re talking semantics here but he’s right, Celtic did take government money to pay their staff. It is a fact. That's a few times you've jumped in to fight the **** battles for them now chief. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I think I've just seen Ewan Murray write something factual, not their little rant about Celtic, but the way they described their comment as.. "an utterly trivial tweet" I applaud this Damascene conversion, he has finally found some clarity and realised the content he puts out is utterly trivial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Worth having a wee look at Chris Jack's Twitter page should you ever feel tempted to read any of his, ahem, 'writing' in the Glesca Times or Herald. https://twitter.com/Chris_Jack89?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author A warning to expect little in the way of balance or questing journalism. I expect the Herald/Times have a similar stooge for the other cheek, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, KirkieRR said: Worth having a wee look at Chris Jack's Twitter page should you ever feel tempted to read any of his, ahem, 'writing' in the Glesca Times or Herald. https://twitter.com/Chris_Jack89?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author A warning to expect little in the way of balance or questing journalism. I expect the Herald/Times have a similar stooge for the other cheek, too. Delighted to see the concept of “beat writers” finally make its way to this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I don't see any issue with a Glasgow based paper having club correspondents. DC Thomson has them for United, Dundee and Saintees. His constant RT of the Royal family account is weird but I would imagine not exceptional amongst the staunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 53 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: That's a few times you've jumped in to fight the **** battles for them now chief. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, gannonball said: It through the employers PAYE system (to employees). Sorry but I really don’t think you are that simple and are either trolling or just that blinkered, probs the latter. Can you please inform the entire accountancy profession that they've been treating furlough wrong? This is going to be quite a bombshell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, coprolite said: Can you please inform the entire accountancy profession that they've been treating furlough wrong? This is going to be quite a bombshell. Nope, no c**t ever really wants to speak them as they are the most boring lot going. Also before you correct me how it is paid please don’t , nobody cares. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, gannonball said: Nope, no c**t ever really wants to speak them as they are the most boring lot going. Also before you correct me how it is paid please don’t , nobody cares. Heads gone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Heads gone Not yet but I’ve been stuck in Aberdeen for 5 days which is enough for torture for any soul however being lectured about an accountancy process may push me over the edge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, gannonball said: Not yet but I’ve been stuck in Aberdeen for 5 days which is enough for torture for any soul however being lectured about an accountancy process may push me over the edge. uh oh, not an ‘Aberdeen is shit’ post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, gannonball said: Nope, no c**t ever really wants to speak them as they are the most boring lot going. Also before you correct me how it is paid please don’t , nobody cares. Don't lash out at the accountants because you've made a tit of yourself. As one of your fellow celticcy types put it about 20posts ago: "You made a mistake, no big deal a simple correction would have done But nope, you gotta double down" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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