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19 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Also that tweet is proof of nothing. No figures or sources are noted.

You think that the SFA's Digital Manager was lying about the supporters' club memberships? What would be the motive for that?

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On 11/06/2021 at 10:40, Ric said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7237619/rangers-celtic-players-free-transfers/

I shouldn't be surprised by The Sun, but this ticks both boxes of desperately contrived links to the OF and lazy journos.

Its in The Sun.

Save yourself the bother and just dont read the red tops. Its lowest common denominator content aimed at OF morons.

Would be more shocked if someone could find any example of good journalism coming from them.

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On 11/06/2021 at 10:40, Ric said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7237619/rangers-celtic-players-free-transfers/

I shouldn't be surprised by The Sun, but this ticks both boxes of desperately contrived links to the OF and lazy journos.

Jon Toral

Toral spent six months on loan at Rangers from Arsenal in 2017 before joining Hull City and later Birmingham. The Spanish midfielder, 26, has struggled with injuries and fitness this season and was let go by Blues boss Lee Bowyer. 

 

 

He must be due a testimonial!

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17 hours ago, Jacky1990 said:

Its in The Sun.

Save yourself the bother and just dont read the red tops. Its lowest common denominator content aimed at OF morons.

Would be more shocked if someone could find any example of good journalism coming from them.

I think you need to check the thread title, champ. Of course the piece is utter mince, that is the point!

10 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Jon Toral

Toral spent six months on loan at Rangers from Arsenal in 2017 before joining Hull City and later Birmingham. The Spanish midfielder, 26, has struggled with injuries and fitness this season and was let go by Blues boss Lee Bowyer. 

 

 

He must be due a testimonial!

It was Toral's addition that prompted me to post the link.

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On 09/06/2021 at 21:35, TheJTS98 said:

I know a few Rangers fans who 'support' England and hope Scotland lose etc. But they're thick neds. They think this way because their mates, also thick neds, think that way. They think it gives them staunch points. But asking them for a political, religious, or philosophical rationale for it would be like asking a sponge to tell you about its favourite film.

I don't know any Rangers supporters who aren't brain dead morons (can stop sentence here etc etc) outside football who have this view.

I do love the idea that Rangers fans started supporting England because of Gazza. I'm pleased by it. If Scotland get a pasting from the Czechs, I'll just decide I support Rudi's team.

The Spongebob Squarepants Movie. 

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18 minutes ago, The Master said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57439470

Stuart Cosgrove blaming devolution for Scotland failing to qualify for a major tournament is certainly an "interesting" take.

Early on, I was waiting for PlayStations to get the blame, but thankfully it didn't dredge up that old cliche.

Turns out it was the Xboxes all along  :rolleyes:

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57439470
Stuart Cosgrove blaming devolution for Scotland failing to qualify for a major tournament is certainly an "interesting" take.
The B*Witched fact is a lie as well, they were number one when we played Brazil, but by our last game in a major tournament they'd been knocked off the top spot by Three Lions '98.
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Yeah, Cosgrove's assertions shouldn't even have been put into (virtual) print as it's possibly one of the stupidest things he's ever said.  It's a lazy correlation on speed.

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11 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Famously they don't have Xboxes or PlayStations in countries like France, Spain and Germany.

And not one person under the age of 18 drinks alcohol.

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Cosgrove's points are a rehash of arguments he made in that BBC documetary series a few years ago. His thesis hasn't improved much for accuracy IMO.

We failed to qualify throughout 1960s, and qualified throughout 1990s... neither of which fits the narrative about pre-war crowds and post-war crowds, motorcars, videogames, loss of heavy industry, etc.

This also goes totally unexpanded upon:

and, increasingly, by following other national team sports

What other national team sports have developed a following? It used to be football and less so rugby union and it still is. Barely anyone follows cricket, netball, hockey or rugby league.

 

12 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Famously they don't have Xboxes or PlayStations in countries like France, Spain and Germany.

Tbf they probably didn't have a teachers strike in 1985. That usually gets an airing.

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It's a bit bizarre from Cosgrove as it seems at odds with the article he wrote for the latest edition of Nutmeg.

If he wants to express that view that's fair enough - my issue is more with the BBC by not really questioning it and then, even worse, including the quote in a package used on yesterday's edition of their Global News podcast where listeners could be forgiven for treating it as fact.

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