Mark Connolly Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/rangers-campaign-to-turn-club-and-its-fans-into-social-pariahs-ignores-plight-of-young-working-class-white-males-john-mclellan-3246016 Holy f**k 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/rangers-campaign-to-turn-club-and-its-fans-into-social-pariahs-ignores-plight-of-young-working-class-white-males-john-mclellan-3246016 Holy f**k Oooooooooft 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Is John Mclellan G51? Such cutting class oriented writing can only be his. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/rangers-campaign-to-turn-club-and-its-fans-into-social-pariahs-ignores-plight-of-young-working-class-white-males-john-mclellan-3246016 Holy f**k Wow...that is something else! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 41 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/rangers-campaign-to-turn-club-and-its-fans-into-social-pariahs-ignores-plight-of-young-working-class-white-males-john-mclellan-3246016 Holy f**k It is truly stunning that The Scotsman has published that. I can only guess that it's an attempt to achieve 'balance' having offered the Andrew Smith piece earlier. Highlights include not really being interested in football, but being a Rangers fan anyway. I also liked the ludicrous shoe horning in of his brother's story, and let's not forget the references to an "inflated tax bill". I genuinely don't know if he mentions Craig Whyte's acquittal as a stitch up, or as evidence of the club being unfairly targeted in the first place. An ignorant, dishonest and nasty little article, penned by someone who clearly shares its characteristics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: An ignorant, dishonest and nasty little article, penned by someone who clearly shares its characteristics. Quote John McLellan is a Conservative councillor in Edinburgh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/rangers-campaign-to-turn-club-and-its-fans-into-social-pariahs-ignores-plight-of-young-working-class-white-males-john-mclellan-3246016 Holy f**k Jesus f**k that is a mess. No surprise, I suppose, it is the Hootsman after all. From someone who claims to have Rangers leanings but rarely attending games, he goes on to throw out every excuse possible other than "of course, the real people to blame are the Rangers fans who fought and trashed the place". Instead throwing out excuse after excuse, contrived mitigation after contrived mitigation moving onto "they other side are just as bad" only to end on the "it doesn't matter what you think, there are generations of inbred hatred and that's something that should be applauded rather than condemned". The only good thing here is that my adblocker is stopping me viewing the comments, God forbid what sort of toxic mess those are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/rangers-campaign-to-turn-club-and-its-fans-into-social-pariahs-ignores-plight-of-young-working-class-white-males-john-mclellan-3246016 Holy f**k Jings, where to start with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) What grade are Brechin transferring to instead? Juniors? Amateurs? Welfare? Schools? Edited May 23, 2021 by HibeeJibee 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: What grade are Brechin transferring to instead? Juniors? Amateurs? Welfare? Schools? This bit too "Brechin became part of the Scottish Football League in 1954 ", is nonsense too. They came into the league in 1923, and although they didn't stay permanently in the system, they were in then out for many years prior to 1954. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Dundee Hibernian said: This bit too "Brechin became part of the Scottish Football League in 1954 ", is nonsense too. They came into the league in 1923, and although they didn't stay permanently in the system, they were in then out for many years prior to 1954. Sportsound was worse... they claimed 114yrs. Brechin were founded 1906 (actualy 115yrs ago)... joined SFL in 1923 (old Third Division), dropped-out 1926, returned 1929, mothballed during WWII, promoted from old C Division in 1954. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: What grade are Brechin transferring to instead? I went to check this and you'll be pleased to know they've deleted the tweet which said senior and the first few mentions of senior in that article https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57132097 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ginaro said: I went to check this and you'll be pleased to know they've deleted the tweet which said senior and the first few mentions of senior in that article https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57132097 Aye, the tweet was deleted and the article has been partially corrected. I say "partially" .... "And, 46 years on from being founded, former Fife juniors Kelty will become one of Scotland's senior clubs, with Brechin expected to join the Highland League. For former Scotland and Rangers captain Ferguson, it is a return to senior club management after an earlier spell with Clyde." It's....um.... does anyone at the BBC actually understand the structure of Scottish fitba? Edited May 23, 2021 by resk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 They used to call East of Scotland League clubs amateurs whenever they played in the Scottish Cup. Funnily enough this never applied to Highland League clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, resk said: Aye, the tweet was deleted and the article has been partially corrected. I say "partially" .... "And, 46 years on from being founded, former Fife juniors Kelty will become one of Scotland's senior clubs, with Brechin expected to join the Highland League. For former Scotland and Rangers captain Ferguson, it is a return to senior club management after an earlier spell with Clyde." It's....um.... does anyone at the BBC actually understand the structure of Scottish fitba? If you surveyed their presenters and pundits I'd be confident that less than half would properly know about Highland and Lowland under SPFL2; and perhaps a tenth would properly know about East of Scotland, West of Scotland etc. under that. You wouldn't expect them all to be well-versed: but the fact almost none has the faintest idea is evident come Scottish Cup time. I think that's partly down to many personaliities being from in and around Glasgow so maybe it'll improve now Clydebank, Pollok, Auchinleck etc. are in senior pyramid. When the pyramid is mentioned it isn't at all uncommon for them to assume the Lowland is the very bottom. It's also clear many of them don't know the East and West juniors are defunct. (Then again even their knowledge of junior football seemed stuck in a timewarp... Kilwinning, Whitburn or Tayport are often go-to examples). Consternation was frequently expressed in 2019 over how could Berwick possibly take Cove's place in HL. Just as bad on terminology: and not simply using "senior" when they actually mean "SPFL" or "the Scottish league". How often do you still hear them saying "the SPL" or "Premier League"... or calling the top division "the SPFL"... or my personal favourite "the SPL Premiership"? During their radio coverage yesterday the main commentator repeatedly talked about Brechin dropping out of "the Scottish Football League". It has been defunct for 8 years! Edited May 24, 2021 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 17:20, HibeeJibee said: What grade are Brechin transferring to instead? Juniors? Amateurs? Welfare? Schools? It's pathetic, isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Just fired this off to the BBC - "The article on Kelty Rangers beating Brechin City is a total joke. Brechin did NOT join the Scottish League in 1954, they were members of the old Division Three between 1923-26 and Division Two between 1929-39, mothballed during the Second World War, and associate members (being in C Division) from 1947 to being promoted in 1954. Kelty are NOT joining the senior leagues - they already played in a senior league, the Lowland League is a senior league (as are The Highland League, the EoSl, the WosL and the SoSL). Barry Ferguson did NOT change grades when appointed Kelty's manager, he was still manger of a senior team. As a matter of interest, what level of football does BBC Scotland think the Lowland and Highland Leagues - and associated feeders - play at? Is it too much to expect that articles such as these are written by someone with a modicum of knowledge of Scotland's pyramid structure, or proof read by someone who has." Seething, etc Edited May 24, 2021 by Jacksgranda 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Here's the reply I got - Thank you for taking the time to send us your comments. We appreciate all the feedback we receive as it plays an important role in helping to shape our decisions. This is an automated message (sorry that we can’t reply individually) to let you know that we’ve read your comments and will report them overnight to staff across the BBC for them to read too (after removing any personal details). This includes our programme makers, commissioning editors and senior management. Thanks again for contacting the BBC. BBC Audience Services. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 BBC sports page covering the Killie Dundee game has Naismith as: Steven Naismith Hearts captain & former Kilmarnock forward on BBC Sportsound Fair enough but they have McCann as: Neil McCann Former Hearts & Rangers winger on BBC Sportsound Factually correct but surely former Dundee player and manager would be more relevant. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel wickson Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Just fired this off to the BBC - "The article on Kelty Rangers beating Brechin City is a total joke. Brechin did NOT join the Scottish League in 1954, they were members of the old Division Three between 1923-26 and Division Two between 1929-39, mothballed during the Second World War, and associate members (being in C Division) from 1947 to being promoted in 1954. Kelty are NOT joining the senior leagues - they already played in a senior league, the Lowland League is a senior league (as are The Highland League, the EoSl, the WosL and the SoSL). Barry Ferguson did NOT change grades when appointed Kelty's manager, he was still manger of a senior team. As a matter of interest, what level of football does BBC Scotland think the Lowland and Highland Leagues - and associated feeders - play at? Is it too much to expect that articles such as these are written by someone with a modicum of knowledge of Scotland's pyramid structure, or proof read by someone who has." Seething, etc Love the wee dig at Tom English there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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