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15 hours ago, GNU_Linux said:

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Little wonder he's holding his head - must have achieved an O Grade at English, which is more than the tweeter obviously did.

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My turn

"WHY HAVE DUNDEE NOT WON THE CUP FOR 111 YEARS?

Bad luck, bad management on and off the pitch and they've mostly at best been mediocre since the 60s"

£500 quid please. Ta.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56635658

Possibly wrong thread for this but following on from Rangers selfless offer of providing a colt team in League 2 to aid the development of young players for the national team, they have extended that charitable thinking by pointing out that a ban to Nathan Patterson would be damaging to the SFA and Scotland.

If only more Scottish clubs had this attitude we may have been world cup winners by now.

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What a load of pish. It's only a few games anyway! If he had a minor injury that saw him out for 4 weeks it would be no different.

Also no shock to see Sevco, who have so many massive advantages over everyone else save their pals across Glasgow, wanting yet even more preferential treatment. Shitebags.

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I think the point that is clumsily being made by Gerrard is that in the context of what actually happened (5 lads from the club and their partners playing a game of Monopoly), a six game ban is disproportionate when compared to other rule breakers this season. Jones and Edmundson had a party with a pile of Glasgow influencers, trying to get their hole in the process, and only got one game more. Bolingoli actually left the country, got his end away, went back into training and shared a pitch with another club when he was most likely to be infectious and got a game less. You can argue the toss on which is more severe because there’s an element of subjectivity to interpreting these rules, but I don’t think it’s ridiculous to hold the opinion that one of those infractions is significantly less severe than the other two, yet the punishments don’t reflect that.

The bit about damaging career prospects etc. I don’t really get. Though I’ve said for a while now on here that Gerrard rates Patterson very highly, so it’s interesting to see that reflected in his comments

 

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4 minutes ago, G51 said:

I think the point that is clumsily being made by Gerrard is that in the context of what actually happened (5 lads from the club and their partners playing a game of Monopoly), a six game ban is disproportionate when compared to other rule breakers this season. Jones and Edmundson had a party with a pile of Glasgow influencers, trying to get their hole in the process, and only got one game more. Bolingoli actually left the country, got his end away, went back into training and shared a pitch with another club when he was most likely to be infectious and got a game less. You can argue the toss on which is more severe because there’s an element of subjectivity to interpreting these rules, but I don’t think it’s ridiculous to hold the opinion that one of those infractions is significantly less severe than the other two, yet the punishments don’t reflect that.

The bit about damaging career prospects etc. I don’t really get. Though I’ve said for a while now on here that Gerrard rates Patterson very highly, so it’s interesting to see that reflected in his comments

 

I don't have much issue with him contesting the length of ban based on context.

The framing of it as damaging to Scotland is quite laughable, however.

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6 minutes ago, G51 said:

I think the point that is clumsily being made by Gerrard is that in the context of what actually happened (5 lads from the club and their partners playing a game of Monopoly), a six game ban is disproportionate when compared to other rule breakers this season. Jones and Edmundson had a party with a pile of Glasgow influencers, trying to get their hole in the process, and only got one game more. Bolingoli actually left the country, got his end away, went back into training and shared a pitch with another club when he was most likely to be infectious and got a game less. You can argue the toss on which is more severe because there’s an element of subjectivity to interpreting these rules, but I don’t think it’s ridiculous to hold the opinion that one of those infractions is significantly less severe than the other two, yet the punishments don’t reflect that.

The bit about damaging career prospects etc. I don’t really get. Though I’ve said for a while now on here that Gerrard rates Patterson very highly, so it’s interesting to see that reflected in his comments

 

Aye, that’s the argument I was trying to make during the week about the severity of the bans seeming disproportionate. Gerrard has really made a bad argument for it though.

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12 minutes ago, G51 said:

I think the point that is clumsily being made by Gerrard is that in the context of what actually happened (5 lads from the club and their partners playing a game of Monopoly), a six game ban is disproportionate when compared to other rule breakers this season. Jones and Edmundson had a party with a pile of Glasgow influencers, trying to get their hole in the process, and only got one game more. Bolingoli actually left the country, got his end away, went back into training and shared a pitch with another club when he was most likely to be infectious and got a game less. You can argue the toss on which is more severe because there’s an element of subjectivity to interpreting these rules, but I don’t think it’s ridiculous to hold the opinion that one of those infractions is significantly less severe than the other two, yet the punishments don’t reflect that.

The bit about damaging career prospects etc. I don’t really get. Though I’ve said for a while now on here that Gerrard rates Patterson very highly, so it’s interesting to see that reflected in his comments

 

Oldfirmfacts on Twitter: "Steve Clarke announces first Scotland squad… "

Angry celebrations and civil unrest on the cards.

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3 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

I don't have much issue with him contesting the length of ban based on context.

The framing of it as damaging to Scotland is quite laughable, however.

Reading it again, i don’t know if he is saying that:

 

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Asked if he felt the ban might hamper the right-back's hopes of forcing his way into Scotland's European Championship squad, Gerrard said: "I'm not saying that at all. 

"That's Steve Clarke's decision. I know Steve rates him. We've had a discussion over Nathan.

"He's burst onto the scene, played against top teams and individuals and you can see there is a talent and potential there.

"It's only a matter of time before he becomes an international. That's not putting any pressure on the player. But those decisions are down to Steve."

 

I dunno, it’s an odd couple of quotes that don’t really make sense. It’s pretty obvious that as soon as Clarke feels Patterson is experienced enough, he’s going to get into the squad. Partly because he’s producing at Tavernier-esque levels, and partly because we have nothing else there. I doubt those four games are going to be the difference between making the squad and not making it.

Obviously player ability shouldn’t be a factor in the level of punishment, nor should availability for Scotland.

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1 minute ago, G51 said:

Reading it again, i don’t know if he is saying that:

 

 

I dunno, it’s an odd couple of quotes that don’t really make sense. It’s pretty obvious that as soon as Clarke feels Patterson is experienced enough, he’s going to get into the squad. Partly because he’s producing at Tavernier-esque levels, and partly because we have nothing else there. I doubt those four games are going to be the difference between making the squad and not making it.

Obviously player ability shouldn’t be a factor in the level of punishment, nor should availability for Scotland.

"I'm not too happy over that and I'm not sure Steve Clarke will be very happy as well," said Gerrard.

"Because, unfortunately, he's going to have a big ban now."

"You're talking about one of the brightest prospects ever in terms of right-back. This kid is going to go and play for Scotland and all of a sudden the SFA wants to ban him for that long. I don't get it."

You could argue about what he actually meant I suppose but it's a terrible argument for how to run a disciplinary process at the very least.

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5 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

"I'm not too happy over that and I'm not sure Steve Clarke will be very happy as well," said Gerrard.

"Because, unfortunately, he's going to have a big ban now."

"You're talking about one of the brightest prospects ever in terms of right-back. This kid is going to go and play for Scotland and all of a sudden the SFA wants to ban him for that long. I don't get it."

You could argue about what he actually meant I suppose but it's a terrible argument for how to run a disciplinary process at the very least.

Sure is. I expect we’ll hear more about it during the week.

Gerrard certainly isn’t doing anything to cool the hype about Patterson anyway

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Aw! C'mon - the boy's still learning. In this case hopefully he's learned that rules/laws are in place for a reason and that ignoring them can come at a cost.  And with any luck the experience will install a wee bit more discipline in his professional life. 

"Ah know the manager said "Don't drift into the middle, stay on the wing" but ah didn't think it'd matter much, ken?"

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30 minutes ago, afca32 said:

Jings and I thought Rodgers was the biggest slaverer we've seen in recent times. Gerrard keeps coming out with utter tripe.

I think he gets a bit of a bye ball 'cos he's a Scouser.

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13 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:

"I'm not too happy over that and I'm not sure Steve Clarke will be very happy as well," said Gerrard.

"Because, unfortunately, he's going to have a big ban now."

"You're talking about one of the brightest prospects ever in terms of right-back. This kid is going to go and play for Scotland and all of a sudden the SFA wants to ban him for that long. I don't get it."

You could argue about what he actually meant I suppose but it's a terrible argument for how to run a disciplinary process at the very least.

Of course, it might have something to do with how past Scotland caps have thrown the dummy out the pram regarding representing their country when the SFA impose match bans.

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