Ludo*1 Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 Tom English' new shtick is being a modern day James Traynor. The more controversy he courts, the better he seems to think he is at his job. He's the lowest of the low in Scottish media and when that includes the incompetence of Pat Bonnar and staunchness of Graham Spiers that's saying a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Tom English' new shtick is being a modern day James Traynor. The more controversy he courts, the better he seems to think he is at his job. He's the lowest of the low in Scottish media and when that includes the incompetence of Pat Bonnar and staunchness of Graham Spiers that's saying a lot. Which is fine if you work for a rag newspaper - not if you work for a tax funded media organisation. That SHOULD require professional, fact based journalism instead of jumped up attention seeking clickbait behaviour. Yes I know that's not going to come from the bbc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 And job done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Just now, Ludo*1 said: And job done. He's fucked it by referencing the guys race in the original comments IMO. Hopefully this sees him punted, he's been a mess for the past year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: He's got the attention he wants so I guess he'll be happy enough. Boy hes criticising will be an analyst at a top club by the end of this decade, so hopefully he's not too bothered about what a old man yelling at clouds is saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: He's fucked it by referencing the guys race in the original comments IMO. Hopefully this sees him punted, he's been a mess for the past year. This won't even make a newspaper nevermind see him punted! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: He's fucked it by referencing the guys race in the original comments IMO. Hopefully this sees him punted, he's been a mess for the past year. It is a bit odd that United have a 17 year old boy doing their analyst work no matter where he's from but I think he's more getting at it being strange that someone so far away is doing it rather than specifically from India or anything to do with race. It would be just as weird if a 17 year old white guy here was doing analyst work for a club in India. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said: It is a bit odd that United have a 17 year old boy doing their analyst work no matter where he's from but I think he's more getting at it being strange that someone so far away is doing it rather than specifically from India or anything to do with race. It would be just as weird if a 17 year old white guy here was doing analyst work for a club in India. It's not that weird that an analyst is being paid to analyse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 30/01/2021 at 22:05, Merkland Red said: You are aware you interjected yourself in to a discussion I had hours ago with "I couldn't give a toss about the exposure our game receives out Scotland" yeah? This is despite the fact I never mentioned outside Scotland. I mentioned the neutral viewer. I'd imagine how much viewers the matches themselves receive would be pretty relevant come contract renewal time. This in turn affects the money the club's receive. If you can disprove that then go ahead. If you disagree then I couldn't really care. This back and forth could go on a while... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 English's weird rant about Indian statisticians doesn't seem too dissimilar to Bill Leckie moaning about 'DJs' talking about transfers on Sky Sports News instead of proper fitbaw men like Matt Le Tissier and Charlie Nick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Tom English is a Rugby Tory gimp. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said: It is a bit odd that United have a 17 year old boy doing their analyst work no matter where he's from but I think he's more getting at it being strange that someone so far away is doing it rather than specifically from India or anything to do with race. It would be just as weird if a 17 year old white guy here was doing analyst work for a club in India. The way he's worded it makes it seem really bad though. He's emphasised the Indian part of it, asking why Scottish folk are losing their job due to cost cutting yet an Indian is keeping his job. It's wild stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 It is a bit odd that United have a 17 year old boy doing their analyst work no matter where he's from but I think he's more getting at it being strange that someone so far away is doing it rather than specifically from India or anything to do with race. It would be just as weird if a 17 year old white guy here was doing analyst work for a club in India.He’s effectively the work experience boy and is doing a bit of paid work as part of a team. As Steve Grieve, the head of the department at the club said yesterday, we have two Scottish guys and a young American also helping. The young guy reached out to Grieve, they had a discussion and he now does a bit of work for the club. Grieve worked in India for a while so maybe wanted to give someone from there a chance at gaining a bit of experience. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Tom English is a Rugby Tory gimp. Bit harsh on gimps tbf. Edited February 5, 2021 by Melanius Mullarkey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, stumigoo said: He’s effectively the work experience boy and is doing a bit of paid work as part of a team. As Steve Grieve, the head of the department at the club said yesterday, we have two Scottish guys and a young American also helping. The young guy reached out to Grieve, they had a discussion and he now does a bit of work for the club. Grieve worked in India for a while so maybe wanted to give someone from there a chance at gaining a bit of experience. From the tweet that Tom quoted it looked as if United were getting all of their analysis from a 17 yr old and basing their tactics on his data. Thanks for clearing it up. Edited February 5, 2021 by bennett 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 That makes a lot more sense but you wouldn't have known that from the BBC article English was commenting on. No suggestion he was part of a team doing the analysis and it gave the impression he was their only analysis guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannadeechee Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 hours ago, bennett said: From the tweet that Tom quoted it looked as if United were getting all of their analysis from a 17 yr old and basing their tactics on his data. Thanks for clearing it up. Here's Steve Grieve's tweet last night about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozam76 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 17 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said: It is a bit odd that United have a 17 year old boy doing their analyst work no matter where he's from but I think he's more getting at it being strange that someone so far away is doing it rather than specifically from India or anything to do with race. It would be just as weird if a 17 year old white guy here was doing analyst work for a club in India. Far be it for me to defend Tom English, but my initial thoughts were that he was surprised that the club were forking out for this kind of expense whilst hoovering up donations from the fans and generally being rooked. English has got previous this season for being critical of United, calling out the signing of McNulty etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, mozam76 said: Far be it for me to defend Tom English, but my initial thoughts were that he was surprised that the club were forking out for this kind of expense whilst hoovering up donations from the fans and generally being rooked. English has got previous this season for being critical of United, calling out the signing of McNulty etc. Investing in an analytics department and listening to it can stop you buying duds. It's actually a money saver if you use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, mozam76 said: Far be it for me to defend Tom English, but my initial thoughts were that he was surprised that the club were forking out for this kind of expense whilst hoovering up donations from the fans and generally being rooked. English has got previous this season for being critical of United, calling out the signing of McNulty etc. I can't imagine employing a 17 year old to work remotely from India is bursting the bank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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