johnnydun Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Aberdeen won the Cup Winners' Cup. No Scottish club has ever won the UEFA Cup/Europa League. OK, but it was essentially the 2nd most prestigious European trophy you could possibly win at the time, as is this one. Edited May 18, 2022 by johnnydun 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: Wonder what next year's strip will look like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, johnnydun said: On the radio this morning some were saying that if The Rangers were to win this, it would be the greatest achievement of a Scottish club in Europe. Then they went on to say that although Celtic fans may disagree, it was a more level playing field back in '67. Completely ignoring anything to do with Aberdeen already winning the same competition, and the Super Cup. It just really fucked me off more than it should have done. Celtic have won the more prestigious tournament. Aberdeen (A smaller club) have won the same tournament, plus the Super Cup. But these wallopers, jumping on board the The Rangers love in, think that this is the greatest achievement. f**k off. I hope they get pumped. Ignoring the dons element, it’s just wrong. It’s not the same as winning the European cup. It just isn’t. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) Rangers have probably beaten better teams than Celtic did in 1967 though. Celtic's entire run to that final consisted of Zurich, Nantes, Vojvodina Novi Sad and Dukla Prague. Edited May 18, 2022 by craigkillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Rangers have probably beaten better teams than Celtic did in 1967 though. Celtic's entire run to that final consisted of Zurich, Nantes, Vojvodina Novi Sad and Dukla Prague. Aberdeen beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. What's your point? If you're seriously trying to equate Rangers winning this with Celtic winning in 1967, where does Rangers being pumped out of Europe's top competition by Malmo at the start of August come in? Edited May 18, 2022 by Mr Heliums 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: Aberdeen beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. What's your point? That Aberdeen's acheivement was greater than Celtics ? Debatable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: Aberdeen beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. What's your point? If you're seriously trying to equate Rangers winning this with Celtic winning in 1967, where does Rangers being pumped out of Europe's top competition by Malmo at the start of August come in? I'm not trying to equate it to anything in particular beyond making the point that the European Cup in 1967 was not the same as the Champions League in 2022. Clearly winning the former will always be a bigger achievement given that it's the ultimate prize, but it doesn't mean it was actually harder to win than it would be for Rangers this time around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I'm not trying to equate it to anything in particular beyond making the point that the European Cup in 1967 was not the same as the Champions League in 2022. Clearly winning the former will always be a bigger achievement given that it's the ultimate prize, but it doesn't mean it was actually harder to win than it would be for Rangers this time around. I dunno being knocked out of one trophy and having a second one as a backup it could be argued makes it a fair bit easier. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 If winning the Europa League is a bigger deal, why did they kill their old club trying to win the other one? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 In fairness, they would be the youngest club to win a Euro Trophy.I thought that claim was thoroughly debunked a couple of weeks back? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 19 hours ago, Squalor Vic said: English's latest piece on the BBC website would give you the boak. So far up Rangers arse these days I especially liked the bit where he wrote about the uniqueness of reaching the final then immediately going into how Rangers reached the final in 2008. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 The opposite of the thread title this but this morning I did enjoy the main broadcast news services coming out with "a remarkable story considering they were liquidated and had to start again." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) The Supercup organisation was always quite odd. I get the idea that teams in the UEFA Cup hadn't won anything while teams in the CWC were supposedly trophy-winners, and that UEFA seemed to be guided by that. But the difference in quality between the UEFA Cup and the CWC every year was massive. The CWC had the odd Big Beast in it, but was generally the weakest of the three tournaments by far, while the UEFA Cup was, in reality, usually the strongest, certainly in terms of depth. In both the EC and the CWC it wasn't uncommon for teams to have at least a couple of near gimmies along the way. In the UEFA Cup this was much rarer if you wanted to go deep in the tournament. UEFA cutting it out of the Supercup at the expense of the CWC winners is a weird one, really. *** ETA - This is not a criticism of the CWC, which I absolutely fucking loved. Edited May 19, 2022 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 20 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: The opposite of the thread title this but this morning I did enjoy the main broadcast news services coming out with "a remarkable story considering they were liquidated and had to start again." Quite enjoyed hearing Archie McPherson on the radio yesterday clarify that The Rangers first game was against Brechin 10 years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Quite enjoyed hearing Archie McPherson on the radio yesterday clarify that The Rangers first game was against Brechin 10 years ago. The days before the same club myth started “The new Rangers started life outside the top flight of Scottish football with a victory over Brechin City - but only after extra time at Glebe Park.” “Receipt of a Scottish Football Association membership, albeit temporary because of continuing negotiations over conditions of entry, had gone to the wire on Friday. It meant that their first signings - former Hearts midfielder Ian Black and returning forward Little - had to be listed as trialists“ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 150 months of history tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I realise the cup final takes precendence as a newsworthy item, but does the St Johnstone v ICT play off final, kicking off in an hour, really less important than a Rangers kitman's funeral? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: I realise the cup final takes precendence as a newsworthy item, but does the St Johnstone v ICT play off final, kicking off in an hour, really less important than a Rangers kitman's funeral? It’s not even newsworthy The other night after the game Tom English was saying RFC deserve a trophy this season… Richard Gordon butted in to point out that Hearts also deserve a trophy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Clown Job said: It’s not even newsworthy The other night after the game Tom English was saying RFC deserve a trophy this season… Richard Gordon butted in to point out that Hearts also deserve a trophy Neither deserve them yet. One will tomorrow though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Clown Job said: It’s not even newsworthy The other night after the game Tom English was saying RFC deserve a trophy this season… Richard Gordon butted in to point out that Hearts also deserve a trophy I was surprised Gordon ended up with the PR job at Cove, his tongue has always so far up Hearts hoop I was convinced he was going there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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